Floyd was terrified of Margo

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  1. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Still NO ONE promised three fights in advance to face a guy. What happens if he lost? Still get ODLH because of a 'promise'? Yeah, that worked out great with Judah and Floyd....
     
  2. divac

    divac Loyal Member Full Member

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    The purist simply don't like the thought that someone as crude and unpolished as Margarito could ever give Mayweather problems.
    Imo a prime Margarito would have been a handful to Mayweather simply because Margarito workrate was off the charts to any other fighter that Mayweather ever faced.
    To Margarito, it didn't matter if he landed clean or not, he just landed wherever he could and kept coming even in the face of getting tagged with clean counters.

    Stamina, workrate, a great chin, and an ability to be undettered to keep punching in the face of getting hit are the reasons why Margarito would have a chance vs a defenisive type of like Mayweather.

    ......but wait a minute, pure skill always wins out right????

    Barkley over Hearns
    Frazier over Ali
    Margarito himself over Cotto

    Just in those three examples the skill level between them is vast, yet the lesser skilled won out.
    The purist need to understand that sometimes the lesser skilled may have the formula to beat or at least trouble a fighter that's vastly better skilled than he is.
     
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  3. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A freakin tune of for Zab Judah. So, the best boxer on the planet needs a tune up to face zab freakin Judah? You know who didn't need a tune up? The worst WW champion ever, Baldomir. Know who else didn't cry about a tune up? Kostya tszyu.

    You were one of those who insisted 3G face Andre Ward in his FIRST FIGHT at 168. Clearly being consistent is not your thing.

    You floyd fanatics can justify ANYTHING he does....
     
  4. GlaukosTheHammer

    GlaukosTheHammer Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :lol: Well, you speak english my friend. Go hang with the Mexican boxing community and tell me they've not been talking about Marg-May for like a decade.

    Suck these nuts. Floyd beats anyone that boxed actively from 2000-2016. :lol: awesome, I agree.
     
  5. JohnnyDrama99

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    I agree with you on that Lance....The lineal title in my opinion was more for Floyd’s leverage negotiating his price. I think he wanted to have the lineal champion recognition before he sat down to ask for his split because it made him more valuable for the fight. The casual fans already bought into Floyd being p4p best but Oscar was the main attraction. He was going to give Floyd only what he was worth at the time and his PPV numbers didn’t give him much to bargain with
     
  6. Pimp C

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    Why do you do this to yourself Lance? You can't be this dumb? He was fighting Zab who's a slick southpaw Mitchell is a slick southpaw it was a nice fight to take in preparation to face Zab at a new weight. There's nothing wrong with it. Who should he have fought in preparation for his first fight at WW in order to face Zab? Margo??? LMFAO!!! You will try to argue with anyone just for the hell of it. There must be something in the water up there or something.

    BTW I never said GGG should fight Andre for his first fight at 168 I said he could have a tune up at the weight first stop making **** up.
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    People get 3 and 4 fight contracts all the time. Andre Ward just got one when he signed with HBO again and agreed to fight Kovalev. Where have you been?
     
  8. Pimp C

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    JLC and Margo fight nothing alike. If you don't realize that then find a new sport to watch.
     
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  9. Pimp C

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    Pac had a high workrate Ndou had a high work rate Jesus Chavez had a high workrate. Workrate can goes to **** when you're in there with someone who's not there to be hit. :deal: I mean how many times do you have to see PBF in the ring and guys throw a career low in punch output and have career low connect % to boot. This is nothing but wishful thinking by PBF haters, because he didn't fight the glove loading cheat. If PBF had fought him to the haters he would be just a glove loading cherry picked cheat who had a half a dozen losses. But since PBF didn't, he's some unbeatale monster that runs PBF out of the ring. It's hilarious and pathetic at the same time the desperate reaches some will go through to bring a man down. Pick a bitter fighter than Margo next time the guy is a bum who never had a win of note after being exposed as a glove loading cheat.
     
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  10. navigator

    navigator "Billy Graham? He's my man." banned Full Member

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    I don't think Floyd has an easy night with Tony in 2006, even if the first 4-6 rounds could've looked like a canter for him. That said, I'd put my money on a Mayweather decision win (possibly tighter in reality than on the scorecards).

    If I could be bothered to type any more paragraphs tonight, I'd go into more detail. But, in summary, I'd expect it to have been the most physically gruelling and exhausting assignment he faced in his career.
     
  11. GlaukosTheHammer

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    Probably because people only analize hit and don't be hit back formulas. Hit me I hit you back harder formulas are just written off as crude and unpolished.

    Obviously there are exceptions, but more often than not points boxing is seen as pure or ideal while damage boxing is seen as somehow lesser and requires less training to hone and perfect.

    How many people give a **** about learning about Deontay Wilder's technical formula? They don't give a ****, you've two camps in general ones that enjoy his KOs and others that are unimpressed but both sides agree that Wilder's power was something he was born with not anything Jay Deas or Mark Breland taught him.

    You hear "power is something you're born with" all the time but you never hear speed or reflexes or awareness or endurance is something you're born with and I promise you this if you look into the science of it science seems to be blissfully unaware of this phenomenon that's so well known to the prize fighting industry. The science of the physics of the human body is called kinesiology, you can look it up.

    There is a reason why big punchers tend to look the same and suffer the same criticisms throughout their career. It's the same reason why any other similar types are similar. Thinkers think, movers move, speedsters speed, and reflexor counter....it's not complicated. Everyone of them were born with a proclivity and got with a trainer to exaggerate that proclivity however only power and the systems centered around power are written off as something below the need for analysis.

    All of that said, Margarito was not crude or unpolished. He was pretty damn good at what he does.
     
  12. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He fought scrubs prior to Kov, not actual challengers. So who else then?
     
  13. navigator

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    I honestly can't even be bothered to argue with those assessments these days. If the words of Manny Steward weren't enough, mine aren't going to change any minds.
     
  14. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    So you never ONCE said 3g was ducking Ward... Ok :rolleyes:

    Yes, you made your case for the tune up versus the great Zab Judah.... You can buy your own garbage.
     
  15. Pimp C

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    Barrera is not a scrub.