Floyd was terrified of Margo

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  1. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    ^^^^^^ Another one all mouth but nothing else Provide proof or just STFU & let the adults here talk boxing
     
  2. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    You've been exposed so many times on here that it's no longer worth doing. There's no shame in your game.

    Fancy fabricating a boxing record for old times? What's you record going to be today? How about 17-2? That sounds believable...
     
  3. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Are you a drenlou Alt ?? You sound just like him A stalker with a vivid imagination that hasn't the intelligence or any knowledge pf the sport to discuss boxing
    Oh BTW Mickey Mouth PROOF !!!!! ??? WHERE IS IT ???
     
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  4. The Akbar One

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    When have you seen Margarito throw punches as fast as Maidana? Margarito was fairly slow.
     
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  5. navigator

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    Perhaps. Perhaps not. But in my personal estimation, as well as the estimation of the boxing industry at the time, Margarito was a more marketable and credible fight than Baldo, and Floyd declined it.


    And my disagreement is with the bold, I don't buy that Baldo was a better option. Without going through the same arguments over and over, that's all I can say.




    Thanks for the kind words, JJ.
     
  6. JohnnyDrama99

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    No worries. I don’t mind your position. You’ve made valid points, we are just coming from different perspectives.

    Based on Floyd’s body of work, I give him the benefit of the doubt that he would’ve faced Margarito if it made sense to him at that juncture of his career. I honestly believe that. Floyd has faced everyone of note even if there are arguments the bouts took place past his opponents best days
     
  7. JohnnyDrama99

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    I was corrected on that. But appreciate the reaffirmation
     
  8. Sugar 88

    Sugar 88 Woke Moralist-In-Chief

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    Yes, anyone who calls you out on your nonsense is a Drenlou alt.

    Grow up mate.
     
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  9. C.J.

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    Really Tony screwed it up for himself when he tptally destroyed Cotto causing Floyd & Oscar to wet their little girl panties. Neither wanted any part of him
     
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  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Me grow up LOL Its you two that are acting like spoiled kids on here. My friends & the people that matter all know who I am & all about me. We have many a laugh at that clowns expense
    Oh NYW do ypu know EMMANUELLE Steward:risas3::risas3:
     
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  11. divac

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    Fans wanted Mayweather vs Margarito, Floyd gave them that fight in Vegas that cebrities were seen leaving the arena mid fight. LOL!
    ......now I remember, against the great Carlos Baldomir. LOL!
     
  12. Sugar 88

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    Get help.
     
  13. kirk

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    Nice post.

    I dont think a Mayweather Margarito fight is a reasonable expectation for Floyd debute at the weight. Fighters often take tune ups against second or third tier opponents when they move up to a new weightclass, and Floyd opting not to go straight at Margarito at the time I think hardly constitutes as a duck. Margarito was not some must make fight at the time, his biggest win being Cintron and being two fights removed from a loss.

    I agree the mitchel fight was worthless.... and almost any fight against any top welter would have been better, but seeing as how this was mayweather first fight above welter, saying Mawyeather specifically ducked Margarito here is a pretty big stretch, imo.

    In 2006, Mayweather had 2 options. Fight the lineal welterweight champion, whose best perceived win at the time being an undisputed zab judah, for more money, or fight title holder margarito, whose perceived best win at the time being Cintron, for less money. Despite the (imo, rightful) higher ranking of Margarito in the eyes and minds of the boxing community, is it really reasonable to not understand wanting to fight for the lineal weltwerweight title, against the guy who has the better recent resume, and the guy who pays you more?

    I can understand someone calling that a duck, but I have to say if someone is going to call that a blatant duck.... I think they are not really capturing the true spirit of what ducking truly is. Mayweather had been at the weight for *less than a year* when he signed to fight Baldomir. And he signed to fight against a guy who was had a more techinically prestigious claim at the time than Marg, and for more money than he got for Marg. Contrary to popular opinion, Margarito was not some king at welterweight that Mayweather had been avoiding for years going into the Baldomir fight. He was just another top welter, that mayweather chose another top welter (though admittedly, one that was not as good) that came with more money, a lineal title, and who had just recently had a win over a fellow popular, top american fighter (baldos win over Judah)

    Again, I simply cant classify that as a true duck. The guy hadnt even been at the weight for a year, and he fought the lineal champion for more money.
     
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  14. kirk

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    Baldomir was the lineal champion, who in beating Judah had the best most recent single win percieved at the time between him and Margarito, and for more money at that.

    You really going to call fighting the lineal champion, coming off the better win, and for more money, a blatant duck of a guy who had lost about 3 fights prior, whose best perceived win at the time was Cintron, and he would have gotten less money for?
     
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  15. Barrera

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    you also forget floyd beat maidana, at a much older age then the fight vs marg (which was the baldomir fight)

    can we agree that floyd would land ATLEAST 50% of the shots he throws at marg (i theorise this based on the fact floyd often hit at around 50% on his opponents and i think we can also agree marg would have the worst defense of just about any floyd opponent)

    based on this alone your basically left with 2 ways marg beats floyd

    -he lands over 50% on floyd (no one has even come close to doing that) and wins a decision maybe a knockdown will help

    -he knocks floyd out.

    now out of those 2 options i think we can both agree marg aient landing 50% on floyd.

    you can say pac would beat floyd, you can say paul williams might beat floyd yeh great... i can see why someone might think that (especially prime pac). BUT MARGARITO is prob one of few fighters i would beat EVERY CENT I OWN on floyd to beat... it took 11 rounds for cotto to be caught slowed down and broken by marg (and im not even going to touch on the controversy as i know it falls on deaf ears with you so LETS ASSUME he is innocent for the sake of argument)

    cottos style is boxer puncher with an emphesis on using the jab to work his way inside to punish his mans body and head, hes defense is nowhere near as good as floyd, his movement is not, his conditioning is not and his whole style is WAY more suited to marg.

    forget it, the verdicts in... marg loses EASILY
     
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