Floyd was terrified of Margo

A few pages have gone by that I could understand you skipping (lots of posts, lots to read). But, to summarize, the part of your reply that I would dispute is that Floyd was being paid more. The 8 mill bases were the same, and I've never seen any reliable documentation that he was to receive a higher PPV % for Baldo. My contention is that Mayweather-Margarito was not only the more credible fight, but the more marketable one by some way (All-Action Mexican Titlist vs. Brash African American Prodigy) and would have yielded a higher buyrate than Floyd-Baldo. There was so little enthusiasm for the Baldo matchup, it had no spark in or out of the ring by which to sell it, and Floyd's buys went from 350,000 to 374,000 to 325,000 because of that. I'd say he was willing to take the sales hit and sacrifice a degree of possible negotiating leverage with DLH (buyrates count more than lineages at the negotiating table) to steer around the more threatening assignment.

If what Bruce Trampler says 11 years later about negotiations with the Floyd Crew is true,

"Al came in to discuss Floyd's next fight with Bob [Arum]. They were going to meet in Bob's office. Al was early. He had a few minutes to kill, so he stopped by my office. And I remember very clearly, Al said to me, "I'm going to be talking with Bob about a fight for Floyd. Bob will probably call you in at some point for your opinion. I'd appreciate it if you didn't mention Antonio Margarito as a prospective opponent." That was the formula. Al and Floyd were ducking a guy who, at that time, would have been a very dangerous opponent. They knew how to minimize risk versus reward, which, if you're a fighter or a fighter's manager, isn't necessarily a bad thing to do.",

it wouldn't surprise me. His comment isn't really even critical of Mayweather's choice, but what it does suggest is that Mayweather was prepared to take a short-term backwards step and stymie his immediate growth in order to get to DLH with the minimum of risk.

Everything just seems to suggest that they didn't want to know the guy at that point in time, with eyes on DLH. Whether they'd have fought him down the line if Tony had remained a force into 2010 and beyond is another discussion.

 

Could be pretty true.

 

Good post...although I was also mistaken that Floyd was offered more money for the lineal title. He was actually offered the same amount, $8M. Unless the PPV upside was more aggressive for Baldo? Even then the numbers probably would have been a little higher for Margarito so it would have been a wash.

 

Floyd has been ducking me for decades.

He's totally scared of me, that's why he never fought me.

True story bro.

 

That's right...forgot you were a WW champ at the time as well

 

I'd have loved to see the Maidana that fought Mayweather fight Margo. It could of been a true classic. People like to use Marcos as a stick to beat Floyd's legacy with but IMHO he could of done exceptionally well if he'd chosen to continue after the two Mayweather paydays.

 

Are you Rigo? As I heard you called out Floyd and Twitter and he ducked you. He knows that even you with a bruised hand would have him out of there before the pain kicked in and you had to tactically withdraw at the half way point.

 

Tony would have stuck his chin out & INVITED Floyd to hit him & laughed when he did
Floyd NEVER beat Maidana It was Kenny Bsyless who did what he was paid to do stop Maidana from fighting
Do you see how ludicrous you look when you say " Lets assume Marg was innocent " ?? When all anyone can do is ASSUME he's guilty LOL
The only chance Floyd has would be hire Kenny Baylesa again as Mother Hen protecting her chick Floyd hasnt got the cojones

 

...and then Floyd would have stuck his chin out, invited margo to hit him, and laughed when he missed!

 

I remember when Void was afraid of Margarito!

 

Floyd would never have the cojones to get in ring with Tony even in vegas with bayless and the NSAC backing him

 

not that Floyd ever needed anyone's help to win his bouts, but I would say the two things Floyd could have done differently would have been fight pacman 4 years earlier (not laying the blame at Floyd or pac's feet. they both share this as a blemish IMO) and fight paul Williams at welter
there was a lot of hype around margo early in his career (as there usually is regarding heavy handed fighters), but at the time he walked in on Floyd's press conference (as I said previously), his best win was cintron - so he hadn't exactly earnt his shot.
there will always be names you can bring up during a fighter's reign that they could have fought, but Floyd didn't leave too many stones unturned during his

 

Oscar & Floyd were both quoted as saying " I want the winner of
Cotto-Margarito" But when they saw how Tony totally demolished Cotto they both suffered the shrunken cojone syndrome lol

 

and then margarito received a one year ban which cast doubt over the cotto win (and previous wins), a loss of credibility, and won one of his next 4 fights (including a loss to cotto)
you're basically saying, look! margarito beat up cotto in shady circumstances, and he was dodged by Oscar and Floyd based off that one dodgy win. let's forget that he was banned for a year and lost repeatedly when fighting on a level playing field when he returned to boxing.

 

1... Margarito destroyed Cotto LEGITIMATELY!! Made him QUIT!!
2... Cotto STILL couldnt beat Marg even though he was blind in one eye from round 2 from a Cotto thumb That NY doc saved Cotto not Marg
4... A blatant lie started the accusations against Margaritp There gas NEVER been any proof he did anything wrong
5... The only fight Tony legitimately lost was to Pacquaio ar rhe time the P4P # 1, The juiced tp the gills AGAIN Mosely fiasco doesn't count