Floyd was terrified of Margo

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by TheDon!, Jan 15, 2018.


  1. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    A prime Margarito is better for Mayweather's resume than you think. It would give him a victory over a legitimate top young WW which Floyd does not have on his resume. And it would be a win over a top level pressure fighter which would be good win for Floyd given that's a stylistic problem for Mayweather. Like for example Mayweather's win over Corrales in retrospect is to be expected because Corrales is a puncher which is tailor made for Floyd. But a guy like JLC and Maidana is a very good win for Floyd because they present so many damn problems to Floyd's style.

    People wanted to see Floyd in there with a young and big pressure fighter. Like Williams and Margarito.
     
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  2. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    OK PIMP you went too far calling a guy a ******* fool for not believing your claim that Margarito had loaded gloves. Now is your chance to back up your ludicrous claim
    SHOW US ALL YOUR PROOF HE WAS GUILTY !! NO ONE ELSE HAD BEEN ABLE TO.
    C'mon don't hide Either show proof or be a man & admit you were WRONG!! There was never anything more than FALSE ACCUSATIONS!!
    Are you a man or a mouse ?? I truly hope you can MAN UP !!
     
  3. tinman

    tinman Loyal Member Full Member

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    Now we are getting somewhere. Look we all know Margarito was a grueling assignment for Floyd. There were years where Mayweather did not purse Margarito because he chose lower risk higher reward fights. You say that everybody would sidestep Tony in that instance, and I call absolute Bull****.

    In 2004 Manny Pacquiao took on an unknown ATG named Juan Manuel Marquez. This was immediately after a fight in which he established himself the man of the Featherweight division. Marquez was high risk, low reward and fought valiantly to a draw.

    So no, it's a flat no. Not everybody takes the easy way out for less risk and more cash.
     
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  4. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You got schooled on the pads from Navigator. You must have intentionally 'missed' his post on the topic. Or your too stubborn to allow yourself an unbiased look.

    OK...$1 dollar more to face a lucky, easy-win scrub over a proven titlist. Awesome.
     
  5. LANCE99

    LANCE99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He won't do a darn thing but repeat what he always does about margarito.
     
  6. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Margo is a disgraced cheat who after getting busted with loaded wraps beat no one of note. A win or a fight with a cheat does nothing for him because we dont know how long he loaded his wraps throughout his career. So we dont really know how good he was.
     
  7. Pimp C

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    Margo and his trainer were suspended and banned by the csac. I wasn't aware that the csac was in the business of suspending innocent fighters? If margo felt he was innocent then he would have sued to clear his name. Loading your gloves is even worse than taking peds. He didnt sue because he knew his ass was guilty.
     
  8. JohnnyDrama99

    JohnnyDrama99 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I don’t think it’s fair to say Floyd avoided him....when presented with options that make more financial sense, most boxers will always go with the opponent that provides a greater monetary return.

    Floyd definitely could have agreed to fight Margarito and it would have been a test, especially in his prime....but that would mean another fighter would have been “avoided”.....it could have been DLH.

    Could you imagine Floyd’s career without a win over DLH? Critics would have really browbeat Mayweather if he chose Antonio over the Golden Boy. He could have faced Margarito over Mitchell, Zab or Baldomir....But Zab was a more popular boxer even though he lost to Carlos...and Carlos was the lineal champion...Mitchell was his first fight at 147 so Floyd should not be criticized for taking a light touch.

    Floyd wasn’t active enough to fight everyone but the opponents he did fight, were the best options at that time. He needed to be thoughtful in who he chose to fight both for financial gain as well as for his legacy.
     
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  9. Pimp C

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    I didnt see his post and you cant draw up a scenario as to how pbf loses to margo other than breaking his hand early in the fight. Pbf is a stylistic nightmare for margo a guy who holds an extreme advantage in speed atleticism skill who doesnt fade who has a high ring iq and atg defense. Pbf has beaten and shut out much better fighters than margo its wishful thinking to suggest anything else.:deal:

    Btw pbf got a % of the ppv purse in his fight with baldo so it was way more than just $1.
     
  10. JohnnyDrama99

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    Actually....I think Floyd had a fractured rib going into that fight with Castillo. I don’t recall Floyd ever having a shoulder injury?

    Mayweather claimed after that fight that he had fought with "a messed-up arm" and two broken ribs. Then he beat Castillo more decisively in their rematch eight months later.
     
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  11. Pimp C

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    No it was his shoulder he had a shoulder injury going into the fight. He even complained to his corner during the fight about it.
     
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  12. navigator

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    He declined a big offer (which was left open for him even after he left Top Rank) and didn't sign to fight Baldo for another 3 months or so after that (and the money was no better than what he was offered to face Tony, as far as I'm aware). He avoided Tony. It happens. He's not the only great who ever swerved somebody.
     
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  13. JohnnyDrama99

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    I remember him complaining about an injury in between rounds but after the fight he claimed that he had fought with "a messed-up arm" and two broken ribs. Then he beat Castillo more decisively in their rematch eight months later.
     
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  14. JohnnyDrama99

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    He did decline the Margarito offer but he had faced Zab in April of 2007...won a world title and 7 months later lined up the lineal champion, Carlos Baldomir. The timing wasn’t perfect and the money wasn’t as enticing. From a legacy perspective, Floyd was cerebral in his approach and Baldomir was a lower risk/bigger reward.

    It was a better option to go with the fight that paid him better for a more prestigious prize. I can’t blame Floyd for that. I would have loved to see the Margarito fight in 2007, but He’s faced all the other top guys in his era. Maybe not during their primes....but nonetheless he’s beat all the most notable names in his era.
     
  15. tinman

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    Thurman was his mandatory for years and he did not fight him. We all know how badly Keith wanted that fight. And it would have probably been the best win of Floyd's campaign at 147.