floyd will beat pacquiao rather handily IMO. reason inside. post your analysis.

Pac ain't Zab! Prime Zab would starch Pac.

Stop man. Just stop.

 

Yeah Pac ain't Zab, he's 100 times better then Zab.

.. and Baldomir, and a blown up Marquez, and an old DLH, and Gatti...

I could go on.

 

you know what happens when manny lands a left right?idk but in my opinion, mayweather is a agile and hard to hit fighter but hes not that tough.i saw that when hatton lands his only shot on him. so is judah and castillo

 

If you say so. Pac is NOW better a lot of things. Being a crafty enough boxer to give FMJ the problems Zab did is NOT one of them.

What are you even talking about? They have nothing to do with you trying to say that since Zab gave FMJ problems Pac will... for the same reasons. Zab and Pac are apples and oranges.

You could go on. You always bloviate about nonsense.

 

Laugh all you want. You are blind to the facts. Pac can only hide for so long at 140 and above before he has to actually get it on.

There is no-one left at WW who will let him not USADA test. The only person left at 140 even worth matching him up with is pretty decent.

Soon he is going to have to stop picking on leftovers and fight a live opponent with an in tact camp.

 

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I actually feel the same thing! I think for PAC to be successful he can't just fight one way....like he did with Josh. He'll have to press the action most of the fight but he'll have to switch things up to keep Floyd guessing on what to expect. When Floyd adapts.....Roach is gonna have to get in Manny's head and have him change gameplans....If I'm right Roach and PAC will have a few different game plans to combat the ever adapting Floyd. I also think Shane will be doing the same thing.....Shane is more dangerous with is power for Floyd, but I think Manny has more tools that will cause Floyd trouble....and that's only b/c as Shane is now 38....he fights more conseratively (aside from the marg fight that is) He's more efficent...sits down on his shots more and more intelligent with the addition of Naz.

Both PAC and Shane COULD beat Floyd. You can never be certain in this sport of what the outcome will be but usually when speaking about Floyd it's pretty clear that he will win or dominate.....Not in these two fights...he's got his work cut out for him.

 

Ah, good old youtube. If I picked the right Youtube clips i could make Ricky Hatton look like a slickster, it doesn't make it so. Floyd counters, of course he does, all fighters do, but that doesn't make him a counterpuncher.

 

What was so crafty about Zab throwing straight lefts into Floyds face? Or landing body punches? The only crafty thing he did was hit Floyd with counter shots, but he was also just as successful leading with his punches. It wasn't until he completely stopped his punch output that Floyd took over. We've seen this happen in Judah fights before.

You can go back to the Corley fight too. Another southpaw, who wasn't a very good fighter nor an accurate puncher, but he stunned Floyd with one of the few straight left hands he threw. He also wobbled Floyd with a right hook.

If you can't see the connection I don't know what to tell you. Zab is a southpaw that gave Mayweather trouble with his quick hands. Pacquiao is a southpaw with quick hands, and feet. He throws way more punches then Judah and never gasses. He's better offensively and puts punches together better, and hits harder. He has a granite chin and doesn't fade. Do I need to go on?

Why don't we just agree this will be a good fight, and leave it at that.

 

You don't think he's a counter puncher?:-( Floyd is a text book counter puncher.

 

yup, too many guys have tried to bull rush mayweather and to no avail. the only guy that nearly pulled it off was castillo but lets not forget the weight advantage he had on mayweather on top of the fact that mayweather was injured in the fight. just as mayweather is versatile, pac is as well, just in different ways. he can throw with good power going backwards. alot of people love to bring up the fact that mayweather struggled with judah for a few rds. but the qustion is why did he struggle with judah? reason is, because against judah, mayweather had to be the aggressor at times, more often the usual. and he is more comfortable with his opponent coming at him. when he has to be the agressor, he compromises his defense enough to get hit and judah is fast as hell. if pac vs. may happens, looks for roach to devise a gameplan where he tries to make pac force mayweather to lead. this will especailly happen if mayweather feels like he is behind in the fight.

 

:rofl so if a person steals, the dosent make him thief according to you right?

 

Talk about bloviating. So now you're saying Pac handpicked Cotto, DLH, Hatton, and Clottey?

Name one fighter you'd like him to fight. He beats anyone from 147 and below easy. The only two guys I can see beating him are Mayweather and Mosley.

Any version of Judah would get killed by Pacquiao, I don't know what you're smoking.

I highly doubt that. Mosley won't ask for it. The only guy is Floyd, because he's scared of Pacquiao.

 

Jeez. You ever spar? Punches are punches. All fighters throws the same damn punches. What is "crafty" is the guys body placement and "explosiveness". The leading your dumb ass is talking about is the explosiveness. If you think Pac is ANYWHERE near as explosive as Zab you are a complete fool. Shot Zab still has the fastest hands from rest at WW.

Now Corley wasn't a good fighter and not accurate? You are a clown. Corely was damned solid and Mayweather went into the fight looking for a KO. He settled down and cruised.

Pac has fast combinations. He isn't tricky going into them. Any skilled counterpuncher would know when he is going to throw. He does not settle into "flinching" matches and beat guys to the draw or CP like Zab does.

Like I said clown. The amount of punches only matters so much. Look at the Clottey match. Clottey wobbled and busted up Pac and he threw a handfull of punches. You think Pac wouldn't have gassed had Clottey kept up a decent assault? Please.

Pac keeps fighting left overs and limited brawlers. Sure he doesn't fade. Top Rank gives it to him on a platter.