Floyd will go down as the most overrated boxer in history

Agreed. But he'll get in on popularity, not talent.

 

1)hatton's prime ended with the olivera fight. no fault of floyd's but hatton was past it. and it's not about did floyd fight the best available: were they in their prime? no. were they that formidable? not really. no matter how you wanna spin it, they won't be remembered as great wins all time because of that.

2)i think they both will get in to be honest.

 

I call bull**** on your bull**** call. Every point you posted can be easily countered.

He absolutely has great skills but his "ATG"resume is all smoke and mirrors.

Unless he does something drastic within the next couple of years, The words duck and cherry-picking will always be synonymous with Floyd.

 

Thats your real argument of why PBF and pacroid is?

 

and excitement. augustus is popularity but gatti is a fight of the year legend

 

sentences work better when they make sense.

 

Didnt they say PBF was ducking SSM? they say this before alot of PBF fights... then he beats them and everyone says he was supposed to win.

 

Hatton was past it fighting olivera? What? Thats insane. His BEST wins came after that fight. How can he be past prime?


Oscar and Mosley were beyond formidable. Both coming off brutal KO wins. Both fighters bigger, taller, longer then Floyd and outweighed him on fight night by close to 10lbs, atleast in Oscars case. Past prime? Maybe. Not dangerous, hardly.

 

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T.S. Your letting your hate/emotions cloud your judgement. Floyd is far from the most overated fighter in history. Just wondering here but when they do fight (Pac/May) and if floyd beats him what would that make Pac in your eyes???

 

There is no smoke and mirrors about going 15-0 against champions. Hell we just saw one of Floyds old victims Demarcus corley, who nobody rates give Marcos Miadan thought to be one of the best junior welters in the world absolute hell for 12 rounds.

Floyds resume is beyond solid.

 

1)yup. best wins, biggest wins, etc. hatton would have won bigger and better if he had taken those fights earlier in his career. watch hatton before KT and then after...there's a difference

2)we'll disagree. you can make excuses all you want but the oscar that fought whitaker or even campas was not the same that floyd fought. the mosley that he fought was NOTHING like the one oscar fought. they were name fighters by the time floyd got to them...

 

Props to Floyd for taking the Mosley fight and for his performance but that doesn't erase the fact that Mosley-like All of Floyd's biggest wins- was clearly past his prime.

That's where the cherry-picking part comes in.

 

I've seen his old fights. He was more fundamentally sound, a better boxer, but that doesnt mean it was his prime. If he would have tried to box kosta Tszyu or Collazo or Castillo he would have gotten eaten. What made him a true champion was his brawler style. Doesnt mean he wasnt prime. He was only 30 years old.

Of course not. He was slower, less pop and not as fast on his feet. However, he was bigger, stronger, a dangerous puncher, and a 10 year veteran. I.e Dangerous. Oscar that Floyd fought would have KO'd Margarito and beaten Cotto guaranteed.

They were name fighters who were coming off brutalizing victories over fellow champions. Mosley was coming off a KO win over the best welterweight "allegedly" on the planet. The most feared man in boxing. Mosley was and still is a top 3 fighter at welterweight, aside from Pacquiao and Mayweather I wouldnt bet on anyone else beating him. To say he was just a "name" is silly.

 

true, calling him a name fighter is selling him short but you can see where i'm coming from. you make the points yourself. no matter what way you look at it, wins over them are much like robinsons win over henry armstrong, toney's win over holyfield, or leonard's win over hagler. they weren't the same fighters they were in their prime and unless you have wins over great fighters when they were still great, your resume will always be limited

 

Debate with a Floyd fan? Hahahahah, good one:good