He may not have the chin . . . but the dude who beat the tears outta him certainly does. Williams Margarito Cotto Shane Cintron all have a good chance.
Lemme retract my earlier statement. Floyd isnt more technically sound. B/c is order to "hotdog" you need to have known the basics first. So I meant to say that Floyd sticks to the book more than RJ. RJ throws like 4,5 hooks at a time, in order for him to do that he have to had learned the fundamentals to just throwing one hook. Just want 2 clear that up.
I wouldn't go that far, but floyd is better from a technical standpoint. floyd is not in their messing around and hotdogging like roy used to do. floyd is all business and the fact that he won 5 titles in 5 weightclasses by the age of 30 shows why he will always rank ahead of roy. roy didn't win the heavy title until he was 34.
ranked ahead of roy? how winning the heavyweight title alone is a big deal. RJ unified the LHW division. And the only reason why RJ didnt win more titles at a younger age, is one he was self promoted and 2 early in his career his pops had him waisting his time fighting nobodys
how many weight classes did roy conquer by the age of 30.:roll: roy didn't start at 130 he started at 154. please don't make excuses just deal with the facts.
Fact, Jones has far more title defenses, Fact Jones beat more champions Fact Jones beat more ATG than PBF. Fact, Jones was fighter of the decade in the 90's. Fact, Jones has moved up more weight classes than PBF. Fact Jones got a higher medal in the olympics that PBF. Fact Jones won a HW title after starting below MW, something that hasn't been done in 100 years, PBF has 5 titles in 5 weight classes, that was done this decade by another fighter. Nothing you say will bypass that. 5 weight class champion means little when compared to being the first former MW to win a HW title in a century. It's a higher honor and nothing you say can change that.
I was just about to say that. wel some of what you said at least. ANd how is he going to say stick to the facts when what I said is the truth. ONly reason why Floyd "accomplished" more by age 30 is b/c he wasnt self promoted. But that still doesnt prove anything in Floyds case, b/c RJ has still accomplished more than Floyd regardless. If you are gonna say that doesnt matter then , you must agree that 50Cent is a better rapper than Jay-Z b/c 50 has acomplished more at his age than Hova. Matter of fact its the same thing. 50 came in the game with Dr. Dre, and Eminem backing him, so he got shot to the top so fast, which put in him in the position he is in now. As oppose to Jay-Z who sold Cd's out his damn trunk, he started out independent and builded his way up 2 where he is. You dont see the difference?
you think Duncan is better than Garnett. HOW? ONly reason why Duncan has won those rings i b/c of the team he has always had. If Garnett would have had a team like the Spurs he woulda won rings long time ago. My whole point of askin that ? is while Duncan sticks to the fundamentals he not better than KG. NO way, he cant do stuff that KG do. So how is he better? Same **** with RJ and FLoyd, FLoyd sticks to the fundamentals more, but evrything Floyd can do RJ can do. BUt stuff RJ does Floyd cant do, so how does that make Floyd a better fighter?
Duncan has a MUCH better back to the basket game and he is a MUCH better shot blocker. He is also more CLUTCH. The only weakness to his game is he is a bad free throw shooter. Floyd's only weakness is his hands are always a risk to get hurt. Garnett is just more flashy. Just like Roy is more flashy than Floyd. RJ can't do everything Floyd can do or he wouldn't have gotten put to bed by Tarver and Johnson. His defense is nowhere near that of Floyd. It has nothing to do with resumes. Floyd is a more complete fighter than Roy and Duncan is a more complete power forward than Garnett.
Better back to the basket game? Dont think so, that is tim duncans game is why it seems that way, he just backs down and shoots. Thats his game. Garnett can do that all day if he wanted to, but his game is waay more versatile than Duncan so how is he not better. I do agree he is a better shot blocker, but other than that KG does evrything else better. KG stats for last yr 2006-07 Statistics PPG 22.4 RPG 12.8 APG 4.1 SPG 1.2 BPG 1.7 FG% 0.476 FT% 0.835 3P% 0.214 MPG 39.4 Tim Duncan stats PPG 20.0 RPG 10.6 APG 3.4 SPG 0.8 BPG 2.4 FG% 0.546 FT% 0.637 3P% 0.111 MPG 34.1 RJ lost b/c he was waay past his prime when he lost to tarver and johnson. And do you honestly think that Tarver abd Johnson could have beaten RJ in his prime? common dogs. How is RJ defense not as good as floyds? Like i said be4 Floyd does it by the book RJ does it in his own way. If you put ya hands up and use ya shoulders 2 deflect punches. And I just use my reflexes to get out of the way of punchs, arent we accomplishing the same thing just by doing it 2 different ways? I cant see how you think Floyd is better, If you want to compare attribute to atribute Floyd is gonna lose.
Your argument about Floyd and Roy holds more weight than your argument about Duncan and Garnett. Floyd is still better defensively because he doesn't rely on his reflexes as much therefore when they slow down he still won't be as vulnerable as Roy. Why do you think Hopkins is so old and still has never been starched? He is much better defensively than Roy too. No I don't think Tarver would've beat him in his prime or Johnson either but Floyd will still be beating fighters like that when he is past his prime. The only thing Roy has on Floyd is power. Anyway, Garnett plays face up more than he does with his back to the basket. He hits most of his points off of mid range jumpers and dunks or lay ups. He ain't clutch like Duncan either. I guarantee you when it comes down to it this year it will be Pierce or Allen taking the big shots just like it was Sam and Spree when they played with him. Plus when you compare numbers from last year don't forget that Garnett played with a bunch of bums and had to do everything. Duncan coasted through the regular season and let Parker and Ginobili eat.
I dont get the logic of you do things by the book, but yet I can do what you do but I do it better, and im not better than you? the logic itself doesnt make sense to me. Wjen RJ was past his prime he was still bussin ass, his style of fighting doesnt merit fighting into your later years as B-HOP. RJ should have retired after he won the heavyweight title, and he woulda been good money. No need to fight longer b/c he didnt need to. Only power? handSpeed, overall quickness, headmovement, footmovement. Not saying that Floyds isnt on point, but RJ's is better. We shall see about the KG thing. Duncan like I said came into the league with a championship caliber team already. They were missing one or two pieces but for the most part they were almost there.
RJJ has more than power on PBF. Jones has a p4p speed advantage. Jones never encountered a man his speed at his weight class or any weight class near him. PBF isn't as fast as Judah, who was not as fast as Jones p4p. Jones has better reflexes, and while PBF is better defensively on technique, Jones in his prime had faster feet and could get in and out more effectively than PBF can even now. Thus the reason he could go an entire round without being hit. Jones also was better offensively. Everyone wants to talk about technical skill, but athletic ability brings much to the table and application of these abilities made Jones a more dangerous and IMO bettter fighter than PBF. You guys argument over Duncan and KG isn't going to go anywhere. KG is more versatile and Duncan is better fundementally. KG changed the entire position and Duncan raised the level of play at the position from its original form but IN its original form. Duncan has a better team and always has while KG has had to carry his. Nothing can be learned there. It's like comparing Jerry West and Oscar Robertson.