Floyd would have always beaten Pacquiao.

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  1. Pakkuman

    Pakkuman I'm not hot. I'm just BIG. banned Full Member

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    Those fights are fights that are highly controversial. You can't talk Tyson-Holyfield without mentioning the biting. You can't discuss Chavez-Taylor without debating the ending. You can't discuss Cotto-Margarito 1 without talking about loaded gloves.

    The Roidquez and Floyd fights were 2 of the biggest fights of the era with the latter being the biggest of them all. And as fans, we were robbed because both guys ended up doing really shady ****. Roidquez hired a PED expert and subsequently showed up to a later fight with a massive amount of acne on his chest and back. And Floyd rigged the drug testing.

    You've never seen me ***** and moan about Bradley I or the Horn fight. Why? Because the judging was awful, but the fighters had nothing to do with it.

    I don't know if Pac is/was clean, but I lean towards yes because he's been VADA-tested and still hurt/dropped guys.

    As a boxing fan, you should be pissed that something was afoul with those fights. But you're more concerned with being a troll than the integrity of the sport.
     
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  3. C.J.

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    ROFLMAO youre a comedian
     
  4. C.J.

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    You Floyd fans have bad memories. Youve forgotten Floyd sr's famous
    " I'm not letting little Floyd in there with Pacquaio , his health is more important than money" It was when Sr was on the "A side meth" accusation kick & Pac sued. Cost the Mayweathers big $$$$$$
     
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  6. adokei

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    the suspect version is right. funny how when FULLY TESTED pac looked tired, frustrated and -oddly- those flurries after flurries after flurries of never-seen-before blinding power punches from ODD angles were totally absent.
    there was a reason pac turned down MANY millions years before when floyd wanted stringent PED testing.
     
  7. adokei

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    I agree with every single syllable you wrote.
    VERY well put indeed.
     
  8. adokei

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    on PEDs'? CERTAINLY... However that was NOT the version May would allow.
    That Cotto, Hatton,Shane and others didn't have Pac on a STRINGENT PED testing protocol was THEIR downfall and stupidity.
     
  9. Malph

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    I believe they were both juicing. Pac had that run where he was knocking the carp out of naturally bigger guys. He looked great. Extremely powerful and explosive.

    The Mayweather team made a big deal about Pac's potential juicing. Pac was put under a lot of scrutiny. Suddenly he stopped looking like that super-human explosive guy.

    He still looked good but was not as explosive, powerful and sharp.

    The difference was aparent to anyone with an objective eyeball.

    Now...if we take that juiced-to-the-gills Pac, I still think he beats Mayweather. His power, quickness, explosiveness and ability to hurt opponents while throwing from odd angles were amazing.

    The odd irony of it all is Mayweather's team was able to bring enough pressure to bare to get Pac off the juice for their fight while retaining Floyd's "special medicine".

    I can't prove this, so you Pac fans, please don't insult my Mother.

    It sure looks like that is what happened when you piece it all together.

    I respect both these boxers. As fans, we were robbed of the chance to see them at their absolute peaks, even if their peaks were fueled by PEDs.
     
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    Malph Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    There is truth in what Robney is saying. Surely you remember Pacman delaying and refusing to be tested because he "was afraid of needles" or had a "superstition about giving blood".
     
  11. adokei

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    you mean Pac for "fearing needles"?
    gotcha.
     
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  12. Pakkuman

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    If Pac was juiced, why did it take him 8 rounds to retire a drained Oscar and 12 rounds to take out Cotto, who's been known to a bit fragile and had taken a savage beating from Margarito? Hatton clearly underestimated Pac and thought he could steamroll the smaller man. He took flush shot after flush shot in the first round and then walked into a left hook in the second.

    And who was Pac supposed to have stopped because as you said, he was more fighting much larger men. Mosley had never been stopped. Bradley had never been stopped. Margarito had been stopped once and had a 17 pound functional weight advantage. Clottey had never been stopped. And Marquez and Bradley have both proven to be guys that are impossible to KO. Sounds like the KOs stopped because Pac was fighting not just bigger men, but very durable men.

    And when you pieced to it together, assuming you're not just a troll, why did you leave out the fact that Pac was still hurting/dropping older men under VADA testing? Floyd and Marquez both refused VADA testing.

    And finally, assuming that you ever even bothered even doing the slightest amount of research, you'd know that Pac was coming in at 148 at the lower weight classes — the same as his fight night weight, give or take 1 or 2 pounds, at welter. He's looked less shredded as he climbed the weights. Basically, he stopped draining.

    Your eyeball is hardly objective. And that's fine. Your mom's a common street walker and I say that not because you think Pac was juiced, but because you're a silly donkey.

    :deal:
     
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  13. Pakkuman

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    $40 million flat fee.

    Pac must leave Arum for the fight to happen.

    Pac must fight Bradley and Marquez again first.

    Floyd even told your simp asses that "everything in life is about timing" and that he "waited until the time was right," you silly little man.

    :lol:
     
  14. Pakkuman

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    Please produce a single quote from Pac saying that he's afraid of needles. No one has been able to. Ever. Gee, wonder why.
     
  15. Malph

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    I'm not a fanboy of either guy. I just watch a lot of boxing and enjoy the fights.

    Even Pacs body looked different. Just like Marquez's looked different when he sent Pac into a deep sleep.

    When I see a guy like Marquez suddenly look way more muscular at an advanced age its a sign.

    Canelo packing on more muscle in a short time than is human possible is a sign.

    Holyfielg moving to HW looking like a mini hulk and having HW power is a sign.

    Hopkins fighting effectively until he was 63 is a sign.

    I believe Malignaggi that PED use is rampant in the upper echelons of the sport.

    Yes. I suspect Pac was juicing durring his peak. I never bought his "afraid of needles" excuse.

    He was not the first and definitely won't be the last.

    It doesn't mean I don't respect him as a fighter. He's had a great career and has fought just about everybody in his long career.