Floyd, You Are The Best Of The Era, But

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  1. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    Floyd, You Are The Best Of The Era, But...
    By Mike Lynch

    Floyd Mayweather, Jr. wants us to believe he should be mentioned in the same breath as Sugar Ray Robinson and Muhammad Ali. Or at least he wants us to think that he believes such an absurd overstatement. Pretty Boy, you sure do remind us of the throwbacks. You know, the all-time greats that will always be associated with pioneering work in their field:

    Rockefeller, Vanderbilt, Carnegie. Like them, you are a master capitalist. You’re also a pugilistic virtuoso, but on your current career path, we will remember you more for being a businessman than as someone who took care of bidness in the ring.

    Allow me to blunt for a moment. Your victories over Oscar and Hatton impress on paper only. Your win over De La Hoya was akin to defeating the Spanish Armada in the 1600’s. Both big-time names. Both already depleted.

    And your kayo of Ricky Hatton at 147 was an impressive display to be sure---if you’re into watching snakes devour mice.

    We applaud your ability to maximize your payday, while minimizing your risk. Adam Smith would be proud. But discerning boxing fans are not fooled.

    Congratulations on the victories, though. I do not intend to entirely diminish your accomplishments, but we know you are capable of more. You are, after all, the best fighter of your era and your work ethic is among the best in any sport.

    However, a young gauntlet of up-and-comers in your own weight class awaits you. You have an opportunity---one that far too many never get---to truly legitimize your reign. Your pockets are sufficiently stuffed. I beseech you to not retire. I beg you to not fight Oscar. And I hope you will listen.

    If you need some time off, you’ve more than earned it. But when September rolls around, I do not want to see you in the ring with Oscar and telling us that a 2nd win over him will cement your legacy.

    Miguel Cotto. Paul Williams. Kermit Cintron. Ready yourselves.

    These are just a few of the names that would present unique challenges to you. Between them they have just 1 professional loss. There’s risk involved. That means there’s intrigue involved. That gets people talking. That gets people caring, which in turn leads to honest debate about your place.

    Cotto is considered the biggest threat, while Williams has a reach and build rarely seen in your class. Cintron, conversely, punches with the fury of a larger man. These would be tests where you can truly prove your mettle. You might get knocked down. You might even lose. But until we see you sweat against a dangerous opponent, we (and you) will never know how great you truly are. At some point you’ve got to put your neck on the line if you want to be considered for boxing’s Mount Crushmore.

    Ali lost 5 times. But he stepped in the ring with legends that pushed him to a higher level. If you’re worried about your health, take solace in the fact you’ll never have to spend 15 rounds getting acquainted with the fist at the end of Smokin’s Joe’s left hook. For years you’ve had a crutch when addressing your lack of big-name victims: You beat everyone in front of you.

    But, if you want to be taken seriously, put a worthy adversary in front of you. They now abound. They’re not the biggest money fights available, but only by making these fights will you silence your remaining critics.

    Please Floyd, accept a fight with Cotto. Afterwards fight whoever is left standing if Cintron and Williams ever get around to a showdown. You’re arguably the greatest fighter of the last 10 years, a unique talent. Perhaps one day, the rest of the world will believe you’re as good as you think you are.





    I agree :good
     
  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Cintron would be worth less to Floyd's legacy than Hatton was.

    Williams as much.

    Cotto more.
     
  3. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    I agree. I personally think Floyd only needs Cotto and thats it.
     
  4. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Of course, that's only NOW. Williams could go one to be a ATG and Cotto fall off the map like Curry did, and it would change. That's the funny thing about legacies.
     
  5. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Floyd can talk about that all he wants, he will never EVER be mentioned among SRR. No fighter in todays age can or will. Impossible platform to reach.
     
  6. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Cintron? :rofl

    The only fight left for Mayweather is Cotto. Williams could also be an interesting opponent.

    Hatton is a mice and Floyd a snake? Ehmm...it was a fight between undefeated Linear Champions and Mayweather is the one that started at 130.
     
  7. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Not sure about that. We know the criteria must change, just as it has in other sports.

    PBF were to clean out 147 of its other titlists, then when the lineal 154 title, all while being unbeaten, we would be having a serious discussion on how good he truly is.
     
  8. MacManJr.

    MacManJr. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This probably 1 of the same writers that was saying Hatton had a good chance to win. Now it's a snake devouring a rat? LOL
     
  9. TFFP

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    I'm not sure Cintron and Williams are relevant in the grand scheme of things. People are hardly going to put him in SRR's bracket because he beat one of those nobodies

    If Mayweather beats Cotto he could retire, and he would have beaten the best in the weight class and achieved all he could have
     
  10. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Exactly, you have to consider the context. No fighter today is going to have a 180-20 record and beat 40 ranked contenders. Maybe today fighters are 45-4 and have beaten 12-18 ranked contenders.

    If Floyd had beaten Casamayor, then beats Williams, Cotto, Mosley at 147 and becomes Linear at 154...I would consider him the GOAT.
     
  11. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    but i mean just cause Williams would mean as much as Hatton did doesn't mean Floyd shouldn't fight him.

    Hatton gave Floyd's legacy a nice little boost so Williams would give him another one.
     
  12. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    Eh. I see it as almost impossible. One loss in todays age and you will NEVER be considered number 1 anywhere. Any fighter.

    That's just how I see it.
     
  13. RICH

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    If Only Floyd Would Listen To You! Then Maybe We Would Get To See The Fights We Really Want To See And Actually Deserve After All Arent We The Fans That Put The Big Bucks In The Fighters Hands Not Directly But Never The Less It Comes From Us.
     
  14. jecxbox

    jecxbox St. Brett Full Member

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    The writer might be a little overcritical of Floyd's career but he still has a point. I only think Floyd needs Cotto and thats it. Cus Cotto could still lose to mayweather and then still eventually clean 147lbs after that.

    I think its funny because Floyd has SO much talent and he has claimed SO much, that now he is thrown onto this pedestal of death and people want him to clean 147lbs.

    Beating Cotto would cement his legacy, but cleaning out 147lbs out of his champions AND contenders would be literally ALL time great type of ****.

    It all comes down to what Floyd is going to do. Floyd is like 31 years old? This guy could fight EVERYONE at 147lbs even fighters on the side who would give him a run for his money like Clottey, Margarito etc etc.

    Imagine a fighter from 130 to 147 and finishing his career being complete 100% undisputed at the highest division that he had climbed. That would be absolutely unreal.

    But if I was him I'd fight Cotto and retire lol.
     
  15. eliqueiros

    eliqueiros Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Best post I've read in a long time. It's not that anyone really hates floyd is just that we are feeling cheated by the #1 champ shirking his responsibilities. What's the only rule in the King of the Hill game. Once you get to the top you have to stay there and fend off those who want your spot. It's that simple. No real ATG will ever walk away from this responsibility. If only Floyd could read your open letter maybe that old spark he had to be the best could be ignited.