Floyd's 40 million offer doesn't seem so bad now.

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by tliang1000, May 14, 2012.


  1. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    I believe he can get it down to 45 days off of the 87 days with good behavior and certain programs but I know **** about the law so I'm lost on that. That is just what I have heard.
     
  2. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    lol..it isn't doing 4 million buys...50/50 on the revenue gives Pac a huge raise while Floyd only makes what he made for Cotto.

    Mayweather De La Hoya split $79,000,000..I showed you how that is broken up..of the $135,800,000 generated, they took $46,000,000 of that.
     
  3. dodong

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    ...and comparing the ppv buys for floyd-dlh to pac-dlh is wrong. pac-oscar was perceived as a circus fight.
     
  4. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    doesn't matter what it was perceived as...that's what the numbers did...does it matter how i make a $1...as long as I make it.

    I'm simply using common opponents...if it hurts your stance then that's on you.
     
  5. Fighting Pride

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    well there are these numbers for those relying on the common opponents theory as to why Floyd deserves 60% or more-


    Hatton vs
    FM 920K ($47M, $10.39M gate)
    MP 850K ($45M, $8.83M gate)

    Cotto vs
    FM 1.5M ($94M, $12M gate)
    MP 1.25M ($70M, $8.85M gate)

    Marquez vs
    FM 1.05M ($52M, $6.81M gate)
    MP 1.45M ($78M, $11.65M gate)

    Mosley vs
    FM 1.4M ($78.3M, $11.03M gate)
    MP 1.35M ($76M, $8.88M gate)


    $311M-$307M edge to Floyd vs common opponents as A-sides, with Pac getting more PPV buys and more people paying to watch him at the gate..does that say 60-40?


    This issue should be about how the money should be split between the two camps based on comparison of revenue generated over the last few years, not who ends up getting more of a raise or not.

    Floyd can choose to continue fighting non-significant fights against desperate no-hopers allowing him to take 100% of the revenue for $40M-50M, or he can take what has turned into his career-defining fight and make $60-70M and probably more should the fight shatter records.
     
  6. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    You left out Oscar.....and Pac-marquez did $74,000,000 in revenue.

    now throw in Oscar as he is a COMMON OPPONENT

    De La Hoya VS
    Mayweather $135,800,700
    Pacquiao $70,500,000

    You can't just remove Oscar because you don't like those numbers. Best believe Oscar, Al, and Richard will include those numbers to.

    your leaving out the biggest opponent draw wise...That's like me saying, well we can't use Marquez 3 because that took Pacquiao 7 years to build and Floyd 5 months to build.

    Sorry *******s you have to keep Oscar in the equation...Like I said, he'll be used in negotiations, when it comes to common opponents.:deal
     
  7. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    You also left out what they made after the final numbers were released...Pac a career high of $25,000,000 while Floyd has a career high of $50,000,000.
     
  8. yingyang

    yingyang Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Floyd should throw in extra 5 Mil. as pac's ppv cut.
     
  9. Fighting Pride

    Fighting Pride Boxing Addict Full Member

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    The De La Hoya fight is not relevant to their drawing power today.

    Neither was anywhere near an A-side back when they happened, and circumstances skewed the buying rate for each fight, eg. first time 24/7 was used to hype a fight for DLH-Mayweather, and for DLH-Pacquiao Manny was moving up to WW having fought at 130 the same year leading it to be deemed a complete mismatch by virtually everyone, whereas Floyd was moving up from 147 and only a slight favorite vs Oscar.

    If they insist on the DLH fight being used to determine the split Mayweather is seeking, the fight will not happen. It's not a fair indicator of their drawing power today and there are fairer indicators out there.

    Whether you want to see the fight, or just want to see Floyd get paid what he wants, neither will happen if they persist with that.
     
  10. PaoloMirani

    PaoloMirani Boxing Addict Full Member

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    don't bother.....it goes one ear and out the other.
     
  11. tinorknitz

    tinorknitz Boxing Addict Full Member

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    A FIXED rate on a fight of this magnitude, with both being a superstar and #1, #2 biggest draw? No thanks.
     
  12. Fighting Pride

    Fighting Pride Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'm waiting for ppl to start claiming Cotto is the second biggest draw in the sport generating 1.5M buys vs Mayweather.

    The 2.4M buys from Mayweather-DLH was an anomaly, mostly attributed to DLH's megastar status at the time and it being seen as his last chance to effectively reach the pinnacle of the sport again (and the effect was multiplied with 24/7 being introduced for this fight, which brought it mainstream attention no other fight ever had previously). The Pacquiao fight was just the opposite, seen as Oscar's ultimate cherry-pick hoping to fool fans by destroying an outmatched P4P guy.

    Mayweather has not gone anywhere near that number since, no fighter has, and Mayweather went on from it to do 920K vs Hatton, which was great at the time but proof that much less than half who bought DLH-Mayweather did so to see Mayweather.
     
  13. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    It doesn't matter that you think it's not..it is a COMMON OPPONENT.

    The De La Hoya fight is part of COMMON OPPONENTS.
     
  14. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    LOL--So they shouldn't use the #'s from the De La Hoya fight...:rofl:rofl:rofl

    Look what these *******s posts have been reduced to.:rofl:rofl
     
  15. catnthehat

    catnthehat Pac doesn't deserve 50/50 Full Member

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    SO IN 5 COMMON OPPONENTS LET'S LOOK AT IT-


    Hatton vs
    FM 920K ($47M, $10.39M gate)
    MP 850K ($45M, $8.83M gate)

    Cotto vs
    FM 1.5M ($94M, $12M gate)
    MP 1.25M ($70M, $8.85M gate)

    Marquez vs
    FM 1.05M ($52M, $6.81M gate)
    MP 1.45M ($74M, $11.65M gate)

    Mosley vs
    FM 1.5M ($78.3M, $11.03M gate)
    MP 1.3M ($71M, $8.88M gate)

    De La Hoya vs
    FM 2.4 (138.5M, $19M gate)
    MP 1.25 (70.5, $14.4 gate)

    So in FIVE COMMON OPPONENTS the volume is as follows-

    Floyd Mayweather

    7,325,000 PPV Buys
    1,465,000 Average

    Manny Pacquiao


    6,100,000 Total PPV buys
    1,220,000 Average