Floyd's ATG Status by Weight Class!

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  1. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Zoo beat Rafael Ruelas, Miguel Angel Gonzales, Sharmba Mitchell, Oktay Urkal, Zab Judah, Ben Tackie, old Julio Cesar Chavez, Jake Rodriguez, etc. Most of the fighters of his generation.

    That's better than beating what Pryor beat: Lennox Blackmore, Akio Kameda, Gaetan Hart, Leonidas Aspirilla, Miguel Montilla, Nick Furlano, an old Antonio Cervantes, a blown-up and past his best Alexis Arguello, etc.


    My point is that Tszyu beat more and better fighters than Pryor, in a better era of the 140 division.
     
  2. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'm sorry....I thought I made myself CLEAR. I said 147....you know WW? Every one of those fights except one MAYBE two happened above that weight. Sure Robinson weighed 147 for some of them, but his opponents were in the 150's or 160's. In other words, MW bouts. :hi:

    You have almost NO experience in watching SRR at WW and it's common knowledge that there is almost NO footage of SRR fighting in the WW division. Your ranking is bogus based on the criteria you stated you were using.
     
  3. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    do you have experience in watchin ray robinson at 147:deal please you sound stupid who would you rate above ray robinson at 147. I have seen three floyd fights at 147 and three robinson fights at 147 more then enough to know ray was the real deal:deal are you disputing ray was the best at 147 ever.
     
  4. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I disagree, only or the simple fact that that 140 has never been deep. if you look at 147 during the zoo time it was much deeper and had more future HOFers then 140. When I look at pryor and zoo in the ring it is an easy pick for pryor by ko.
     
  5. Asterion

    Asterion Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    My only answer to this is that Pryor looked better than Tszyu because he fought lesser opposition.
     
  6. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    LOL....there was one fight on that list at 147. Not 3. So what were the other 2?

    I never said I saw SRR at 147. You said YOU did. Now back up your statement. You are putting him #1 based on reputation. I am not disputing his ranking...I am disputing your criteria. You keep bashing others for using rep and accomplishments, but you used them yourself in this case. You haven't seen 3 SRR fights at 147.
     
  7. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    LMFAO, who are we kidding, he hasn't seen Ray at middleweight let alone welterweight.
     
  8. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Well I can't prove that....but I can prove the list he gave me only contains one WW fight. It may contain 2, but I haven't had time to look it up yet. It certainly doesn't contain 3....
     
  9. DatBo215

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    Bigtime, Julio Cesar Chavez in his prime would have beaten Floyd. there was a fighter named meldrick taylor who was as fast if not faster than floyd in his prime and had real power at JW and chavez literally ended his career and almost his life. Chavez could handle speed and power and always found a way to dish out punishment.
     
  10. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    is that a fact or your opinion:nut
     
  11. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    so which is it 1,2,or 3...do you swallow or spit..stupid ass ******:lol:
     
  12. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    five titles in five weight classes by the age of 30 undefeated proves you wrong:nut are you implying sweet pea achieved more by the age of 30:admin
     
  13. kg0208

    kg0208 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    :|:|:|:|...trying to deflect attention from your lie and being caught in your own ****.

    It's one, and the reason you don't know and needed me to answer is because you never saw those fights either. Don't blame me you were caught with your pants around your ankles. Next time you make up a lie, make sure it's not so easy to figure out.
     
  14. bigtime9

    bigtime9 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I already know the answer but you convinently don't. why should I educate a fool:hey You made too assumptions:

    1. I had not seen ray robinson fight at 147
    2. I had no justification to place him at 147 as the best of all time


    you do realize ray weighed 147 for most of his middle weight fights which means he was still a welterweight,:deal same goes for floyd when he fought hoya.

    You've been sucking too much dick:admin
     
  15. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Name ONE, just ONE significant middleweight fight in which Ray weighed 147.