Yeah, I don't get this guy at all. When he is met with the facts, he ignores that post, yet brags about winning debates. How can you win a debate if you ignore the facts? It's like saying "Herb Siler was a better boxer than Muhammad Ali". Followed by "Ali beat Siler and went on to beat some of the greatest heavyweights ever". Then he'll throw a few insults around after saying he'd won the debate. I'd love him to justify placing Sanchez where he is. I'm sure he'll conveniantly skip this post too, though.
Comparing new to old is utterly ******ed. Sweet pea you pointed out that technique was way different so why even compare? Its stupid. Thats why all time list IMO are stupid. Rocky Marciano went undefeated but he would be killed by Wladimir Klitschko.
Yea but still. Head to head a lot of the BEST fighters of today beat the past IMO. They are faster, bigger and strong for their weight classes. Sub in the fact that today people go up in weight after weighins as compared to doing in the past.
Why is Floyd above Joe Gans and Benny Leonard at 135? And why is he above Carlos Ortiz, Ike Williams, Tony Canzoneri, etc?
you are one funny ****ing inbred castillo lost the first fight and the second regardless of what you think. I mean from someone as biased as yourself why even bring up any close fight with floyd in it:tired
I cannot compare and wont even try since I dont know a whole lot about past greats they do not interest me. =/
that's my rule. since I have never seen the old timers go at it How can I compare them to todays fighters. of course you have nutmunchers who will swear this old-timer was the best ever by watching one old grainy fight:deal
of course you won't, you know the consequences. That mind-**** I gave you last time was no joke oh and sweet pea you better learn your place:good
This is what I said: I was measuring floyd against his contemporaries (who are ATG's as well) guys who have laced them up in the last 25 years. it's not that hard to comprehend. you started running your mouth about shane mosley which was a somewhat valid argument but you didn't have the sense to present it or the facts since shane didn't fight the best at his weight.:deal
being owned is admitting you put your foot in your mouth. how many benny lenoard, joe gans, or carlos ortiz fights have you seen combined don't worry I'll wait
How many fights do you need to see, to be able to judge them properly? I've seen Ortiz probably about 10 times or something, and I think that let's me analyse him enough. I think you need about 5 fights do see how the fighters style changes against other boxers.
why would I have to say what is obvious unless you are a complete moron:smoke go back and look at my list do you see any old-timers on it, there is no way a benny leonard or joe gans would be on my list unless I have seen them fight and I haven't. now if you want to make a list with them on it go right ahead, it's your perogative:deal but don't try and bash floyds accomplishments at that weight when it outstrips anything mosley ever did. common sense would have told you to keep your ****ing mouth closed:hat