Are you saying that so much because you want it to be true? I've never felt in the minority about that fight when I say that I had Mayweather winning 7-5. If you thought Castillo won, that's certainly reasonable. Who the hell ever thought it was a robbery?
how many fights and against who:deal I've seen 4 of floyds, that means ( I have to spell it out to this dumb ****) based on the 1 fight you have seen of leonard and the 2 of gans they are better fighters then floyd at that weight:deal
Once again, this is very dangerous thinking, long term. If a team wins the world cup I don't say that they can't be ranked compared to the MLS teams because I only saw a couple of matches but I watch MLS all of the time.
I agree, 3 or more is better to analyze. I mean after 3 fights a fighter should be acclimated to the weight.
I definitely see your point, but the question is for sweet pea who considers himself an expert on the 135 division you and I have seen duran, whitaker, arguello, chavez, and floyd fight we know their styles and their weaknesses. so it is much easier to rank them as comparted to fighters who fought 60 years ago and we have no way of comparing their footwork, defense, speed, etc. It's pointless to argue against old-timers since I would be a hypocrite having never seen them fight. its best to seperate the generations and go from there, but of course you have trolls like sweet pea who wants to muddy the waters, with their irrational hatred of floyd.
That's pretty much my point. Who are those people, if your not talking about yourself? It's okay for many people to think Castillo won because they have a gripe; hell, I know that there are some journalists who have scored MORE THAN ONE fight against Mayweather (the Judah fight and the DLH fight), but I've never heard a single person say that one of his fights was a robbery. If Mayweather-Castillo I was a robbery, then approximately 40% of all fights that go the distance are robberies. I apologize, I'm just on a hyperbole kick, and a boxing forum is a good place to vent :nut
never said that, so please post my comments where I did ( watch this:deal ) you stated: was it 3 or not, and if so was it 1 fight of bennie's or 1.5 apiece I have seen 4 fights of floyd at 135 which showed me more then what you could have gotten from only watching 1 fight of bennie's. but keep digging your hole, pretty soon I am going to bury you in your own **** oh and don't forget to find my comments where I said it was based on resume. ONe thing you should know is that I never set criteria when it comes to ATG lists, your list is your list.
Bigtime is right. You cant compare fighters from then to them of today. Back then fighters were tougher, fought for 15 rounds, fought every month, and with smaller gloves. Compared to those old fighters, boxers of today are pussies and fight in a watered down sport. Boxing aint what it used to be. :yep
that's your opinion not a fact:deal you have yet to present the facts, what was rosarios achivements at 135, what was his footspeed and defense like, what about chavez. present facts instead of your biased opinions.
So it's about video evidence. Ok then....Mosley is greater than PBF at 135. He had a little more speed, more power and a better offensive output. PBF is ahead defensively and thats about it. That's just on video evidence. And don't ask "who did Mosley beat at 135?" That doesn't matter since we are not including resume.
you could be right especially with the 15 round argument, but fighters fighting less means they are fighting in better condition (well the ones that take it seriously) so the argument is mute whn it comes to the oldies I haven't seen them and unless I get a dvd with a set of them for christmas I don't care to listen to tall-tales about how good they were coming from guys born in the last 25 years.
You cannot present a fact on what Chavez's defense was like or his footspeed. You cannot present facts on Rosario either about his footspeed and defense. Only an opinion, and you are not counting those.
impressive against c-level fighters not world champions. you would have an argument if shane had stepped up and fought other top 135 fighters seeing as how he was there for so long. at 135 floyd was the man, and proved it by beating the best fighter in that weight not once but twice (just for good measure:admin )
Ive never seen footage of Wilt Chamberlain or Babe Ruth. But their accomplishments are in the record books. Same with the boxers of the past. A Win will always be a Win in the books. It doesnt matter about styles unless you are matching fighters against each other. Thats not what you are doing. You are comparing them by accomplishments and ranking them from 1 to 5. So it doesnt matter if there isnt much footage of older fighters. Just look at the record books and rank the fighters. See who has fought hall of famers. And who beat who. Mayweather doesnt even compare. And by the way, I have loads of old school footage of fighters. 3 generations deep thanks to my grandfather (RIP) and dad. So dont pull that crap with me, son.