Floyd's defense for straight lefts

no a straight lead left takes much more commitment to throw than a jab

if manny's punch is parried, he can be timed and countered or made to have his next punch miss

 

not a joke-most trainers in gyms will tell you the same thing-not saying he's better or anything...but Judah's hands were very very quick, even in 2006.

 

Stupid thread for several reasons.
1) That version of judah was faster and had better technical skills than Pac.
2) Floyd neautralized it completely and dominated Judah in the fight.
3) Its boxing. Your're going to hit. Mosley hit him with 2 big RIGHT HANDS, yet I don't hear people saying that Floyd struggles with right handers.

 

Zab will be the quickest and fastest victim Floyd has had in his career when its all said and done.

33-34 years old manny pacquiao won't be as speedy as the 28 years old zab judah Mayweather faced

 

Manny also crosses his feet a lot and over commits on his left hand ALOT...THIS WILL MAKE HIM EASIER TO COUNTER THAN MOST THINK:good

 

yep I know you agree

 

As far as the Zab fight- Zab was landing while being in control of his own movements. While timing Floyd, timing his legs, having reach advantage. In other words, while boxing. Zab's style and Manny's are night and day. Also, don't forget that Zab had been (not sure if he still is) Floyd's sparring partner for previous fights. So obviously they both knew each other's moves.
I think the closest Manny has lately sparred against a Floyd-like fighter is this guy..
which didn't go too well.

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LQuO-J_8EwE[/ame]

 

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Mayweather uses the flicker to check and measure Ortiz after Ortiz crosses his feet and squares up just like manny does.

Here's what I'm talking about -
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kYgtmcTWDPc#t=1m

It's built into him to cross his feet as he mindlessly does his jab-left-right combo. This is a fundamental textbook error. manny gets away with it due to his speed. He's ****ed against someone who has enough speed to time him and knows how to stick a flicker.

Juan makes him pay for his fundamental flaw.

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The flicker in action once again

 

mayweather 17 ortiz 1.:rofl

 

That's Karim Mayfield. manny is lucky Morales and Marquez don't know how to clinch like that.

 

Pacquiao didn't even learn the fundamentals of boxing he's a complete fraud that only shines in brawls or when his opponents walks in straight lines towards him.

The two best technical fighters he fought? Marquez and Morales

What happened against both guys? He got beaten to a pulp by Morales and exposed against Marquez

There's a reason for that, his fans are trying to make him something he's not, the fact is he simply got awarded the p4p title because Mayweather retired, he isn' t the best fighter in the sport.

 

I wouldn't call him lucky. No reason for Marquez to clinch since his reach is not advantageous. Having Manny in close quarters was one aspect of Marquez' style of counter punching. Risky, but better suited for him.
I do not give a single win to Manny for the Morales fights since Morales had no business fighting anyone, let alone such a threat as Manny back then with his condition. Not Manny's fault, but can't say he won either when Morales was even winning the second fight as well before his legs gave out.

 

http://youtu.be/ui-7QZLuDD0

Not if the guy throwing the punch is named Manny Pacquiao. Pac's lead left isn't thrown with power but with speed. It's meant to stun, like a jab. He leans forward with one leg and just uncoils it as he steps to the right sometimes doubling it or tripling it up on his way out or following it up with varied combinations.

 

holy **** you foreal. Floyd's jab is quicker than Cotto's and Floyd defense while punching is much better. Plus Floyd doesn't put all his weight forward like Cotto does.
Manny better watch out if he attempts to take his back foot off the ground to land a lead left, because Floyd was catching Ortiz coming in the whole fight. That was pretty much his gameplan: sit back and counter him coming in.

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To Ortiz's credit, he weighed 164 pounds and has a good balanced stance. Pacquiao likes to take his feet off the ground a lot and is smaller than Floyd. He won't see the 11th round

 

All of these are signature pac combinations to, and the difference is pac follows up with a lot more and wont lay back like judah did. Notice also how Floyd backs straight up in a line or plants his feet, instead of moving at an angle. :nono