Floyd's Haters need to realize something.

People have to realize this...

trying putting any other fighter in the same exact career path as Floyd. someone who starts at 130lbs. Do you think many other people would have been able to dominate all of the same exact fighters all the way up to 154? Including Oscar? You can say he cherry picks, but very few people would be able to defeat all of those fighters.

 

Old interesting thread, just food for thought.


http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=82172&highlight=eliqueiros

 

yes

 

ODLH - yes! but he did not beat UP or dominted OLDH like what PAC did to him

HATTON - not much! Hatton was the king of 140lbs not 147lbs. He was never beaten at 140lbs his comfort zone. At the same time, ask yourself. Who's win is MORE dominating PAC's demolishing of Hatton in 2 ROUNDS as predicted by Roach or the win of PBF which took 8 or 9 rounds with the help of the ring post?!

JMM - very interesting WIN :yep JMM is a 135pounder who mover up 2 weight divisions to fight PBF. I salute him for his guts. Consider that JMM had only 1 or 2 fight at 135lbs. Then he moved up to 144 OR 145LBS. and guess what?! Was PBF satisfied with the WEIGHT DIFFERENCE?!
Damn! He showed up 2lbs heavier and did not both shed the 2lbs over weight and even refused to have his fight night to probably so the fans will know the ACTUAL weight difference.

In other words he fought a BLOATED JMM. Was the 144 lbs jmm that PBF fought as accurate as the jmm PAC fought at 130lbs!?! Hell NO!!!

GO GET SOME GRASS so YOU COULD ACCEPT this reality

 

It's funny you say yes he beat DLH but not like Pac did. Then you fail to mention that DLH was not in his comfort zone and come fight time weighed less then pac despite being much bigger.

Pac was literally fighting a punching bag, while Floyd fought the number 1 ranked 154 champion. At 154.

Roach predicted 9 rounds. And anyway if you are going to use what Roach says here. Let's also go with how he's basically said DLH, Hatton and Cotto were all heavily declined/shot/slowing.

 

140 was not a good time for Floyd. He got ducked by Hatton and Cotto, the two biggest guys he could fight.

The Zoo fight could not be made. Impossible essentially.


But when he moved to 140, he wanted a belt first.

The WBC forced him into two elimination fights. Brussels and Corley. After the Corley fight, Gatti said he'd drop the belt to fight him, so that they could fight faster but no, Floyd had his SECOND elimination fight. Then allowing himself to fight for Gatti's strap.

After he beat Gatti. Hatton and his own father deemed they were not ready and Arum said that Cotto was too green.

 

He gives Pac more credit for beating DLH despite DLH weighing 147 on fight night, compared to Pac's 149.

 

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He predicted 9. Hatton was a champion at 147, because he didn't absolutely dominate it means nothing/

He never lost at 147 either until he foguth Floyd.

Floyd was telling Hatton to do one thing and Hatton was free lancing.

I never said it. You're boy Roach did.

And I won't say Cotto was shot, but he was not the same fighter after he fought Margarito.

And you seem to believe that Margarito had something in his gloves. So it should be fine to say that Cotto could possibly be on the decline after beating beaten pretty badly by someone with loaded gloves.

 

So what if Pac moved up. I'm not saying Pac needed to jump to 154. Im saying, DLH was a punching bag.

I picked DLH to beat Pac but once I saw that he WEIGHED LESS than Pacquaio in the ring. I immediately changed my mind.

Moving up in weight had nothing to do with the fight anymore after DLH weighed 147 in the ring.

Hamed could of came straight out of jailed and probably done as well as Pac.

DLH was drained to the max.

And you completely ignored the part about comfort zone. You said Hatton was not as his comfort zone, but DLH was? Come on man.

One fight doesn't make or break Pac but you seem to want to clinch every little thing.

 

DID pac poke a gun at ODLH for him not to gain weight?! If PAC weighed 165lbs and was slower than a drained turtle will you blame PAC if he loses because he was slow?! atsch

Why BLAME the weight of ODLH on PAC?! You guys will say anything just as not to give PAC credit?!

Before I only hear the judges to blame, the refs at one point it was the cutman to be blamed?! Now even if the opponent showing up not on the weight which the fans believe is not the best fighting weight is blamed on PAC?! :!:

 

Oscar just came of a spectacular KO win over Mayorga before the mayweather fight.

Roach who trained Oscar openly admitted multiple times that Oscar didnt belong back down at 147 and that he took that fight because he knew Oscar would be severely drained. He seen how bad Oscar performed against Forbes at 150 and knew it would be an easy fight.

 

atsch This comment is stupid.

I'm not blaming Pac for anything, you want to think I am, but I AM NOT.

This was DLH's fault but I cannot give Pac a ton of credit for beating a punching bag. It's one fight silvermags, it's not like it could make or break his career.

Pac came to fight, and what he got to fight was a punching bag. I can't give him a lot of credit for beating something that wasn't that tough to beat in the first place.

No one is blaming Pac, stop trying to spin it like we are attacking him.

If someone shows up to drained or too fat, it's not Pac's fault but if Hatton showed up really fat at 140? Are you going to give Pac the same credit for if he were to beat an in shape Hatton?

No.

 

PAC is smaller in height and reach and weight. It was a dream match. They had to compromise. Im not ignoring that ODLH was not in his comfort zone but the same case with PAC. He had to go up 10lbs heavier than his previous fight at 135lbs. Considering he only had one fight at 135lbs..

ODLH is a boxing professional. He should know what is the best figting weight for him. If he shows up at 139lbs for the sake of arguement why BLAME his opponent for his loss?! UNLESS Mrs dela Hoya was kidnapped and was forced to lose weight or do things against his will?!

GET MY DRIFT?!

 

It's because he wasn't such a ***** earlier on. At WW he's tried to call himself 'money', talks like an idiot (greatest of all time, the sport would be dead without me, etc), and then does **** to prove it