FMJ , Just a question

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  1. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    If we're going top play that game. How many people did Pac face that were faster than him that he beat?
     
  2. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You sound like a fool. It wasn't PBF's fault that these so called ATGS weren't in their so called primes. PBF could have fought a prime Oscar and Shane but both of them flat out ignored and ducked him. So why is he to blame? All this ducking talk of ATG fighters is ridiculous and unwarranted. Who are these so called ATGS that he ducked? Please name them?
     
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  3. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    You mean Pac refused. It was Pac that pulled out of the fight because of testing those are facts, remember that.
     
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  4. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    One lucky punch? He dropped him earlier in that fight. Not only that he had practiced that same punch he knocked him out with. It was even shown on 24/7 on HBO. Stop!
     
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  5. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Biggest myth in boxing the last time I checked it was Pac who declined PBF because of testing. He then ran off to fight Clottey and PBF had to fight Mosley because Pac pulled out of talks. Pac is to blame here he waited for PBF to get older, which PBF is the older fighter who has been retired since 2016 and Pac is still fighting and winning.
     
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  6. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    I don't think neither waited for the other to get old. It was the same old 'A' side argument which neither wanted to give up anything to the other..

    It finally happened because both were getting old and they knew they couldn't wait any longer so the deal go done..
     
  7. Pimp C

    Pimp C Too Much Motion Full Member

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    Fair post.
     
  8. Richmondpete

    Richmondpete Real fighters do road work Full Member

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    I didn't ignore the question. The question is pointless and irrelevant because Floyd was better than all of those exepte Duran and leonard. And I'm sorry, you can call pacs wins over barrerra and jmm wins over prime atgs. I don't
     
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  9. Reg

    Reg Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ruiz beat AJ.
     
  10. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    pac won the fights check the records
     
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  11. C.J.

    C.J. Boxings Living Legend revered & respected by all Full Member

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    Your little sniveller could have fought Antonio Margarito but he was scared
    Poor wittle Floyd messed his draws when he saw Tony walking up to him. Just imagine Floyd looking across the ring at Tony smiling at him but knowing too well that when the bell went Tony was coming to take his cowardly head off
    Floyd lost to Maidana & Castillo The world knows it even Floyd knows it.
    Give it up you support cowardly cheats
     
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  12. Odins beard

    Odins beard Fentanyl is one hell of a drug.... Full Member

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    And Mayweather.
     
  13. Manfred

    Manfred Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How many ATG's called out Floyd Mayweather when he was in his prime? For that matter, where is all the haters who said he would be broke by now.
     
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  14. dangerousity

    dangerousity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Come on now, floyd was happy to fight everyone else prior to that without testing and he singled out Pac. Objectively, he’s the one who put the roadblock up.

    Then it was so ironic that he was the one caught with all the IVs whilst Pac couldn’t take a painkiller for his shoulder when their fight actually came around.

    Floyd is on record saying it’s not about making the fight fans want, it’s about his health.

    He was clearly afraid to risk that 0 and needed to milk it first.

    Then I remember years later that Pac said he’ll do ALL the tests and kept calling floyd our, floyd ducked for another year or 2 citing he’s too big of a PPV for Pac.

    Also refused is not the term as he agreed to a lot of demands. Unlimited urine testing, blood test up to 21 days of the fight and immediately blood and urine test after the fight. Given that most boxers have been caught by VADA on urine anyhow, that already rules it out. His blood test up to 21 days gives him just 21 days window to dope and then get caught after the fight forever damaging his rep. That doesn’t sound like a recipe for cheating.

    More plausible is he really did think blood withdrawal close to the fight will weaken him, how do we know this? Simple, there’s a vid 5 years prior where he blamed his loss to morales due to a last min blood test for hiv. That confirms his superstitions to me and not something he came up with on the spot.

    All that said, floyd did beat a still great Pac and a Canelo coming into his prime. Also, fighters can’t really come into their “prime and great” when you’re dominating the division. It’s like how many great prime fighters did Wlad beat? None cos he was dominating it.

    How many did Ali beat? Apparently Frazier and foreman but why were they great? Would they have still held that status of prime and great if Ali was never forced into retirement?

    Floyd dominated the division hard to the point he couldn’t let others shine. Pac did because his body of work was all the way from 8 divisions down. But that’s rare.

    Would jmm have been considered an ATG had the fight been stopped in the first round and he would have been forever known as the guy stopped in the first round?
     
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  15. PernellSweetPea

    PernellSweetPea Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah but in other cases they were close. Hearns when he fought Hagler was near peak and middleweight was the only downside, but that was close and Hagler get's credit. Floyd does not have a fight like that. Unless someone can tell me a great he fought in their peak years