Footage thread

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by McGrain, Aug 28, 2010.


  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think that Gonzalez neither shat or got off the pot in terms of strategy. As far as distance goes, I was fascinated to see them stand so close together in #1 and try to feint each other into leading. I didn't have a clue what to make of that first round to be honest. For Gonzalez though, it's not the type of fight he should be fighting.

    I do disagree with one thing you've said Lora, I think that Canto led a fair bit, and I don't think it beniffited Gonzalez one little bit.



    What do you boys make of Gonzalez at the final bell? He really seems to think he won, which made me look at my card for ages.
     
  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No man. Break it down.
     
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    Hello hello...went up the end of last month!
     
  4. GPater11093

    GPater11093 Barry Full Member

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    To be fair the whole way through I was thinking, that round was close-ish, so was this one. I reckon you could, but you would have had to been slightly biased, have turned in an 8-7 scorecard, and maybe Gonzalez thought he was winning, it might explain his lack of urgency.

    Its just a good fight, Canto is slowing down a bit at this point and rather than running and moving he stands and trades with Avelar in the pocket. Really good action fight although canto stays in controll. I think I posted up a bigger spiel on it in the What fight did you watch today thread.
     
  5. lora

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    I should have clarified by leading i meant as much by footwork and ring positioning as much as just who initiates.Gonzalez should have tried to stand and pivot more than he did, then agian maybe i'm just asking more than he was capable of giving.Easier said than done when fighting someone as befuddling and crafty as Canto.
     
  6. McGrain

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    Yeah, there are a lot of close rounds, indeed. Overall the fight was closer on the scorecards than I thought it would be, even with the two judges who had Canto winning. I wonder if things were a little different for those in the audience?



    Overall, he just didn't do anything like enough for me. Your plan is fine, so is just being more aggressive. If he fights the whole fight like he fights the last five rounds, different fight. Gonzalez is such a frustrating fighter to watch.
     
  7. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    Ohba and Espadas are probably my favourite efforts of his.Epic fights.
     
  8. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I cracked up laughing when I looked up the word troll on wiki and saw your avatar. Great work. :lol:

    As for Betulio, Ohba and Oguma II are my fave efforts of his. Though Betulio made a good late run against Espadas, he was made to look a little mummified in the first half of the fight.

    After the second Oguma fight, I think he started becoming a bit of a plodder and lost whatever bounce he had in his legs in the early part of his career.

    Watching his fight against Ohba and say his fight with Ibarra, you feel you're watching two different fighters.
     
  9. McGrain

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    Folley's best filmed performance? He's admittedly in with a very green Bonavena, but he hardly puts a glove wrong all round. I've scored the fight twice, once I gave the third to Bonavena, once I gave nothing to Bonavena. A beautiful jab controls the action and he follows that up with a really hard right hand whenever Oscar makes one of his frequent mistakes. This nearly brings rich rewards in round 8 against a most durable opponent.

    Round 10 is missing.
     
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    A really cool, shiney performance from Cockell who looks better than his reputation allows in this performance against a sinking LaStarza. Also keep an ear out for how often the commentator calls Cockell on being fat :lol: Anyone pleasantly surprised?

    Not adjusted for speed (I did have a go) so it runs a little slow.
     
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  11. choklab

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    thanks for posting this!!

    I think the commntator is aemon andrews from "this is your life" fame. norman wisdom is the face in the crowd.

    My uncle watched don win the british lightheavyweight title ringside and realy rated don as a lightheavy. of course randy turpin put paid to that but he also saw freddie mills live and belived cockel on the night he first saw him was the best fighter he he saw live from that period.
     
  12. thistle1

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    cockell was really a l-hw with serious health problems, but a very capable and skilled boxer, it's a shame really that his health caused him weight problems, he was marked as a world l-hw champion but his health set him on a different course.
     
  13. McGrain

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    This is the fight Corbett lifted he world's welterweight title in, and he looks great. I would say he is a far smarter fighter than he is ever given credit for, here turning in a mostly backfoot performance, repeatedly bringing the granite-chinned Fields onto some horrible straight lefts. He can't seem to miss with this punch, which he does vary beautifully, sometimes throwing it straight over, sometimes with a little more width, sometimes an uppercut to the body, sometimes to the jaw. He doesn't have much of a jab, but he does sometimes paw out a range-finder to make a one-two.

    Fields has a better jab, but out-fighting is not his game. Despite decent straight punches and a straight-backed out-boxing style, he tries to come inside, where he works his opponent's body whilst being really naughty with the head. He leads with his head on some occasions, which is all up in Corbett's face every time be pushes him to the ropes. Despite his massive back and stocky frame, Corbett does come off worse inside, and appears to be the weaker of the two. Fields is exceptionally rugged and tough and his punch-resistance is insane.

    Corebett is very lively on his feet and good at making room for his punches. This may be the difference as Fields is caught flush again and again coming in. A longer distance may have suited him better, although he was starting to tire himself by the end.

    Corbett: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10

    Field: 7, 9

    Even: 6, 8


    The referee had this fight closer, giving fields the 5th, 6t, 7th and 9th with the 8th even. I thought this was generous. Fields did not land the more hurtful punche in any of the rounds.


    One thing about this fight, McLarnin's stock takes a rocket. His KO1 of Corbett always looked like one of the best knockout wins in history on paper, but how he smashed out this bulldog in a round is anyone's guess
     
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  14. Swarmer

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    Wow! He is a lot like his namesake. Thanks for bringing this to my attention. Lots of pretty clever blocking from Corbett, and does a good job of getting away from those ropes. I'm too busy watching right now, but maybe i'll edit and change what i think
     
  15. RockysSplitNose

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    Going to check these out properly when I home from work tonight - cheers