Footage thread

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by McGrain, Aug 28, 2010.



  1. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    That's the thing. I uploaded the entire HBO broadcast of Curry-McCallum. Not a whisper.
     
  2. El Bujia

    El Bujia Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Some get ****ed. Others get by. It all depends on how much they're looking for it, apparently. You'll notice the majority of uploads that are added the day after a fight get taken down almost immediately, whereas most of the older, more obscure fights stay up regardless of any copyright infringement.
     
  3. McGrain

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    Also, i'm heavily connected.
     
  4. lora

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    What do you think of Pical, McGrain?.He's often cited as being one of the better Khaosai wins, which is true, but i've never thought he was near the class of most of the other champions at the time.IBF usually had the weakest champions in the lighter weights for this era.
     
  5. El Bujia

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    Pical looks a master of holding and hitting, that's for sure.
     
  6. McGrain

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    I don't think he took full advantage of...his advantages, but he has a magical night here and he deserves it. Determined, mobile, good punching.

    But unquestionably, he's not in class of Galaxy, Watanabe or Roman, but it's a very strong era. Had he come in the 90's instead, he'd be more widely appreciated, I think.
     
  7. McGrain

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    Art Hafey: Hafey was a face-first warrior under his skin, but was actually capable of taking a backfoot, when necessary - although never for long. Often wild and just as often way-ward, Hafey suffered from a rare muscle disorder that made it difficult for him to relax his muscles, perhaps explaining some of his anti-combinations although I do also think it was a matter of temperament. Well into the last year of his career a still-young yet diminished Hafey is still capable of the type of blend of savagery and skill that had twice seen him beat the great Ruben Olivares but his seemingly fading physicality makes him more vulnerable...and exciting. Perhaps a little over-looked in the most-deserving-never-to-get-a-title-shot stakes. Ring ranked him #1 at the time of this fight.

    Rodolfo Moreno: It would be an insult to journeymen to call Moreno a journeyman, based on his record alone. His record stands at 1-10 with all ten losses coming by way of knockout. His single win comes over an opponent that managed to overhaul his a fighter that eventually managed to overhaul him, Scott Anderson making it to 2-11-1 before hanging them up. Furthermore this is Rodolfo's first fight. As to his actual ability, this fight reveals more than his paper record. On paper his style is a perfect foil for Hafey, but a combination of heart, real toughness, aggression, a decent jab right hand and a really nice sneak uppercut lead Hafey into trouble.

    The fight: Going into the final tenth, I had Moreno able to land himself a draw had he nailed the last round. Under the ten points must system, he would have been able to win, having previously scored that controversial KD. Seeing a journeyman cause such trouble to a fighter who is ostensibly world class is a thrill in itself, but this fight needs no such prop. The story of the fight is written on their faces, with both men sporting horrible facial injuries by the time of the frightening knockout.
     
  8. McGrain

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    Antonio Avelar is probably an unappreciated fighter, he holds wins over Gilberto Roman, Tae-Shik Kim and Alfonso Lopez, so no joke. Here, he struggles a little to pin down the champion, but his title winning effort is framed by a devastating KO.

    Shoji Oguma shows nice mobility and is working that straight, going often to the body.
     
  9. lora

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    Avelar had huge power.Doing that to Oguma was a huge feat, despite Shoji being past his peak.

    I've always been impressed by Oguma's ability to come back from losses.he didn't have a lot left after this, but still fought his heart out against Watanabe...and got slaughtered for it.
     
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  10. McGrain

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    One of the most brutal KO's i've ever seen.
     
  11. natonic

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    Right or wrong, I think of Avelar as the better fighter between these two. Did Avelar just get caught, was he unprepared, or a little past it? I don't think he was past it, because he had a few more years of good efforts. It looked to me like Avelar came out starting slow looking to work his way in to the fight and Cardona came out in Hagler/Hearns mode.
     
  12. lora

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    Well Avalar was never unbeatable nor particularly talented other than in the punching power area.

    He was capable of losing fights to relatively average top ten rated types his whole career, it's just he had the equaliser and steady solidness to pick him up better wins here and there.

    He may have been struggling a bit with the weight at Flyweight by this point, and overall was one of the better fighters from the revolving door of WBC champs of the early eighties, however i don't think he was ever the type to have a long reign.
     
  13. McGrain

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    I see where you are coming from Natonic, but Cordona serves notice early, he's winging in big punches and Evelar makes no adjustments that I can see. What happened looks pretty inevitable to me, based upon the two minutes we have.
     
  14. natonic

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    Yeah, it kind of reminds me a bit of Laporte-Lockridge in the sense that the victor was throwing mammoth shots without much fear of retribution. The loser needed to change strategy in a hurry but failed to adjust before getting caught.
     
  15. McGrain

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    Sometimes you only get a fraction of a second less than you need. I guess we'll never know...for my part, I think that's about as clean a victory as you can get!