Just watched it McGrain. I saw it pretty much the same way you saw it, although I'm certain there are going to be those out there who gave Gonzalez his dues for the clean body-punching. If Ibarra had a shaky chin he sure made up for by having an iron mid-section. He seemed to almost bait Gonzalez into throwing that left hook to the body so he could counter it with the right hook to the head. Excellent lead left as well. I was impressed. Ibarra really seems like my kind of stylist. A thinking, calculating fighter who knew how to execute. He definitely didn't strike me as the type where you could simply rely on that puncher's chance against. Too organised. Not sure he'd beat Arbachakov, though. Gonzalez seemed made to order for someone like Ibarra, whereas Yuri, while being a very patient, methodical fighter in his own right, also had excellent footwork. That would help him to close the distance more effectively in getting off his combinations than the steady, but plodding Gonzalez. I'll have to give the Herrera fight a watch to be sure.
That's how I see it too. I think he was after making him lead in the first and made that little adaption. The way he leaned in with his gloves tight to his head and just waited was definitely a bit spookie.
Lora would do that sort of thing a lot. Marcel did something similar in the footage I've seen of him as well. I think Ibarra reminded me more of Marcel than any other that comes to mind.
I've always been impressed at how calmly Gaby waited and picked his shot in this bout, i dont think he was as hurt as Lora thought he was considering how Lora reacted to theoriginal knockdown, maybe as you say he got a rush of blood after the knockdown. Has anyone seen more of Gaby? I would love to see more and im always trying to keep an eye out. The only other fight i've seen was vs Chandler. Very entertaining fight, early on i thought Gaby showed enough that he could beat Chandler but let it slip away down the stretch, a little disappointing in that respect, but very entertaining no the less
I never really paid any attention to Gaby to be honest. It was always the other one I was interested in.
ewTrf4JZYcI Another fascinating Ibarra contest, this time against the frightening pressure-boxer Juan Herrera. A cagey first round bellies the violence to come, but we get a small eruption as early as round two, a round that is close to call in a different way, as Ibarra goes head-hunting in violent flurries, and Herrera lays down his marker in seeking out Ibarra's "iron" body. Herrera is a beautiful pressure boxer in that he is either contorlling the space (moving backwards as much as forwards early doors) or he is attacking violently until he is driven off. To me, this is the major difference between this and the Gonzalez clinic - Herrera attacks until he is driven off. Now given his style, he needs to achieve certain things to do this, but he seems to achieve these ends in the brutal and brilliant fourth. Ibarra turns macho, beckoning Herrera in for war, and they exchange withering blows. Herrera takes the round and the fight in this three minutes IMO, afterwards, although he arguably wins rounds, Ibarra never again sits in the box seat he enjoys in the third. There is a sense that he is only able to control the passages of fight that Herrera allows him to, and although that's sometimes enough to pick up a round, it's never going to be enough to pick up the fight. Ibarra seems reluctant to use his jab or legs in the same way he did against Gonzalez. Herrera is eating his lunch now, and how. I'm interested to hear what you guys have to stay about the KO. I think Ibarra quits, maybe.
My card, for what it's worth: Luis Ibarra vs. Betulio Gonzalez: 144-143 Ibarra Gonzalez: 2,4,8,12,13 and 14. Ibarra: 1,3,7,,9,10,11 and 15. Rounds 5 and 6 even. I don't have the time right now to rewatch the fight and try and reassess my scoring of the fight, or to defend why I scored it the way I did (fight isn't that clear in my memory), but I might give it a look later on if anyone is gobsmacked at how ridiculous my card is :good
It seemed all the good Flyweights with notable talents were fighting for the WBA when things got split.Ibarra, Herrera, Kim, Mathebula, an aging but still solid Betulio and then Laciar shored things up. The WBC champions were a weak revolving door by comparison. I hadn't seen Ibarra against Herrera before.From what i've looked at just now reminds me a bit of Espadas against Alfonso Lopez, though Lopez was doing quite a bit better.
Another excellent one, McGrain. Herrera had an awkward rigidness to his style, but all the same he seemed very controlled and economical. Awesome performance from him all around. He didn't give Ibarra any one angle until he'd really started to soften him up in the middle rounds, at which point he went all out on the pressure. Those brutal body-head attacks against the ropes for sustained periods of time are what caused him to wilt. Nothing out of the ordinary about the stoppage. You just can't keep taking a beating like that one.
Controlled is the right word. I had Ibarra ahead after three but it he was never in control of the action like he was against Gonzalez, and once that fourth was out of the way, he seemed totally unable to re-take control. The knockdown, I think it was the body-punch that actually put him down. I think he just got beaten up. I don't think there's a shot that made his legs go and I don't believe he was knocked out. I think he'd just completely lost control, started to lose rounds in rolls, knew it, knew there was no way back and just couldn't continue absorbing those punches - half physical, half mental.
herrera had better legs than Gonzalez did at that point too.He could better cope with Ibarra's own quick feet. Gonzalez was still a good fighter, but had become a straight line flat footed Tito-esque boxer from the waist down.