For all intents and purposes, did Fury beat Wilder 3 times?

Most 1 sided trilogy in modern times. George Foreman destroyed Joe Frazier twice but not 3.

 

It was a one sided trilogy. I will say the first fight was a bad decision. But Fury was dropped 2x, and Wilder needs only 3 more rounds for a draw. I only gave him 1 more round but it wasn’t like it was a high intensity beat down that Fury gave him where you couldn’t steal rounds away. Fury saved the beatens for the rematches. I feel Wilder is 0-3 but I’ve seen many worse robberies

 

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Yes.

 

We have to understand what has happened in the past.

If we understand that the home fighter get's the benefit of the doubt in a close fight then it's fairly obvious.

If it's a draw in the fighters backyard then it's clearly a win for the opponent. Example Canelo v GGG or SRL v Hearn 2 both fights had the popular/home fighter get the draw when the majority of observers thought otherwise.

Now looking at the fight specifically Wilder gets two knockdowns and has a couple of close rounds but otherwise gets clowned and outboxed by Fury. We score round by round so a clear win by Fury.

The problem for Fury is like his Vlad fight only does "just enough" rather than dominate. So he does outpoint but not by a large margin.

However taking the above into acoount the dosser gets beat by The Gypsy King 3-0.

 

Well, that's nice. But it isn't three-zip.

It's two wins and a draw.

Could I say, for all intents and purposes, didn't Wilder WIN? Wilder successfully defended his title for the eighth time. The only highlights were Wilder flooring Fury twice and Fury looking all but out before he miraculously got to his feet. Fury's highlights were getting off the floor. No heavyweight champion in boxing history has ever floored his challenger twice, not gone down himself, and lost the title on a decision. (And Wilder didn't that night, either.)

Fury looked the worse for wear afterward. He face was a bruised mess. Fury and his team didn't protest the decision. They didn't ask for an immediate rematch. Fury fired his trainer afterward. Wilder made two more successful title defenses after the first Fury fight ... against two WBC top 10 contenders ... while Fury fought two unranked opponents. Wilder was the defending champion going into their rematch.

So, for all intents and purposes, didn't Wilder win fight one? One could make a better argument for that. Had Wilder gotten the decision, his next two fights would've been against the same two guys in defenses of the WBC title. Win or a draw, Wilder's defense against Fury was still considered a successful defense by Wilder. Nothing changed.

But it was a draw. Just like Dokes-Weaver II, Rahman-Toney, Burns-O'Brien, Jack Johnson-Jim Johnson, Holyfield-Lewis I, Ruiz-Holyfield III, Byrd-Golota ... and all the others were draws. Except in none of them did the defending champ drop his challenger twice and not go down himself, like Wilder did in the first Fury fight.

Fury doesn't get the win in fight one by default because he was successful in the other two.

 

LOL Dubblechin at it again

 

You do understand that a fight is scored round by round youl Flid....

I admire your mental gymnastics like the Canelo nut huggers on this forum.

You however are wrong.

Also you might want to get yourself a bib as it looks like your drooling.. some Tic-Tacs might not go a miss as I can smell your breath from here. (England)












Thanks.

 

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Yes?

 

Yes. Fury got jipped in the first fight due to him being not from the USA. He won nearly every rd except rd 9, and a strong case could be made in calling rd 12 even, as he got up and proceeded to back Wilder up. Rd 12 was the round Wilder lost any confidence that he could beat Fury with his best combo.

 

There is ZERO case for calling round 12 in fight one EVEN.

ZERO case. A case could be made that the ref could've waived it off with Fury flat on his back staring up at the ceiling. Fights have certainly been stopped when opponents were in far better condition than Fury was. He admitted himself he was unconscious on the way down.

Fury's lucky he got a draw. Had Dokes dropped Weaver twice or Lewis dropped Evander twice, or if Evander dropped Lewis twice, or Byrd had dropped Golota TWICE, take your pick ... none of them would've walked away with a tie.

At this point, Fury-Wilder 1 is ancient history. It was a draw and a successful title defense by Wilder. That's how it goes down in history. That's how the fighters, the promoters, the sanctioning body and everyone reacted to the result.

A poll on a British boxing site won't ever change that. Sorry.

 

Well.... i know 2 for sure.

 

Def 3-0 and if they fight another 50 times it will be 50-0..

 

Aside from the knockdown Fury won the round. He had Wilder on his heels and in a state of shock after the knockdown. Good arguement for an even round.