For all intents and purposes, did Fury beat Wilder 3 times?

Yeah that's not really how boxing works now does it mate?

 

3-0 to Fury for me. You can count the number of rounds Wilder won in all 3 fights on 1 hand it was that one sided and Wilder only had what little success that he did because Fury was in poor shape and off his game in fights 1 and 3.

 

Yes, why not? This is not amateur boxing. You don't count the shots landed.

 

If the ref would have stopped the fight when Fury was down in the 12th, it clearly would have been the wrong decision considering he had wilder on the back foot at the end of the round.

This logic pisses me off beyond belief. Why would you want the ref to stop a fight when the fighter who is downed is capable of not only getting up, but pressing the action afterwards? It makes no sense. If another ref would have stopped the fight, it would have been the wrong decision. I don't understand how it's even a talking point. You want all fights called off before we know whether the downed fighter is actually capable of getting back up?

I bet you are one of the many who complains about fights being stopped early, but if it would have suited Wilder you would have been fine with it?

Do you cry when you remember that Wilder got stopped twice by a man who is "feather fisted"?

 

Fury got knocked down but Wilder didn't hence the draw was fair? I assume you know how the scoring works? How many rounds did you have Wilder winning?

 

The endless debate.

I lost count of the number of Wilder fans that thought a knockdown is the same as winning 2 rounds, so two knock-downs = 4 rounds, which meant the 2 other rounds they gave Wilder made it a draw, because 6 rounds is half of 12...

3-0 for me

 

Wilder had two knockdowns in the first fight and won the battle of the newsreels (but Fury gets a huge honorable mention for his Undertaker rise from the grave). But boxing is scored round by round and there is 95 reasonable ways out of a 100 to score the fight for Fury and about 5 out of hundred to give Wilder a draw. And frankly the 5 ways to score the fight a draw seem pretty contorted to me. I thought Fury clearly won the fight based on the scoring system used but at least thank God the judges didn't give Wilder a win.

 

May be he could lay that claim out there if he wasnt getting bounced off the canvas over and over like a kids ball in 2 of their 3 fights.

I know this is a tough concept for you to grasp, but KDs count and get scored, no matter who you are, so no, Fury is not 3-0, he is 2-0-1 and he is very lucky a more reputable referee was not officiating the first fight, someone like a Jay Nady or Richard Steele, cause that fight could have very easily been waived off. Any referee would have been well within their right to stop the first fight.
People forget, there were women and children in the audience that night, so he is very lucky and should count his lucky stars

 

I don't care about number of rounds won. If a boxer kisses the round twice in a match, and can't do the same to his opponent in the same match, he does not deserve the win.

 

Maybe boxing is not for you.

 

He did - as surely as JMM beat Pac four times.

 

The official record shows two wins and a draw however the ops question was whether you thought Fury won all 3 fights.

Now taking the above into account do you actually understand how the fight is scored?

It doesn't mean 1 knockdown supercedes total domination in the rest of the fight that is truly demented.

Why is your handle old school boxing when you don't even understand the very basics of the sport?

 

I have answered this before, but I will answer it again anyway:

I don't care about number of rounds won. If a boxer kisses the round twice in a match, and can't do the same to his opponent in the same match, he does not deserve the win.

 

What is demented are people who think Round 12 was an even round.

What is demented is believing Fury 'dominated' Wilder in Fight 1 when, after 12 rounds, Fury landed a grand total of 13 more punches.

An average of one extra jab a round.

Again, Fury lucked out getting off the deck, surviving the fight and managing a draw. Fury admitted he was out on the way down.

Fury didn't file a protest of the decision. Fury didn't demand an immediate rematch. He gave speeches about getting off the floor, called Wilder the greatest puncher ever, went back to fighting unranked opponents, fired his trainer and began preparing for another challenge.

And Wilder continued to successfully defend the title two more times after that before Fury took the crown in the rematch.

It was a successful defense by Wilder.

Get over it. It was three years ago.

 

I understand that but it's not how the fight is scored. It's not about deserving anything it's the rules of the sport.

As I stated in an earlier post 2x knockdowns and a couple of even rounds that could be argued either way. Fury still outboxes Wilder the rest.

So being generous to Wilder and giving him the close rounds it's still 8 rounds to 4 in favour of Fury.

You're entitled to your opinion it's just wrong that's all.