For all that say unrine is enough, read this and then STFU

Well I agree with that too, best testing and all.

BUT....

The test must not have any effect on figthers performance or interfere with the training. I think this is were alot of pro boxers wont agree. You have to remember that this is a higher level of competition as compared to the olympics boxing.

 

The blood testing will NOT affect a fighters perfomance...By the logic you are proposing, all fighters who have fought in the Olympics have not been performing to their full potential due to the weakening sustained from the blood tests. You're acting like the doctors will extract liters of blood from them when in fact all that is needed is 1 or 2 teaspoons of blood .

 

honestly, your deluded.:?

 

they (arum and co) dont want it to be random Chris.

 

The only problem with Arum proposal of dates is that there would'nt be any testing in the 30 day span leading to the fight......which btw is when fighters are at the most intense part of their training regimen......

A fighter under Arum's proposal could hold off taking a performance enhancer until right at 30 days to go for the fight........then begin taking them for several days of their most intense workouts......and then stop taking the performance enhancers right in the nick of time where that a day after the fight, it would no longer be in their system.

I'm no expert in drug testing.......but you would think that it be common sense that athletes take them during the time frame where they are at that facet of their regimen that is most important and most intense.......and for a boxer, thats the time frame of 30 days before and leading up to the fight (which is exactly when Arum does not want Pacquiao to be tested.):nut

 

its the best testing out there... why not?

 

So you're saying Floyd should shut the **** up?

 

so that's why floyd should have a compromise. roach and pac just wished that there would be no test leading up to the fight. olympic style testing would not assure this. floyd could still wish for a random test but not days before the fight. but all we are hearing from their camp was it is non-negotiable. arum is just outlining a possible solution to save this fight.

 

First of all, the doctor said that line, not the TS.

Second of all, the statement is clearly a dismissal of Arum's comments saying urine testing detects everything. I hope the athletic commissions take note of this and implement more thorough testing methods...

 

Arum is saying not tests 30 days before the fight, only after.......and I would think that to testers trying to catch someone cheating, not being able to test a fighter in those 30 days leading to the fight would be crucial.

Roach has made it public he just does'nt want his fighter weakened.......if thats so......shutting off the testing to 3 to 5 days before the fight would be more realistic.......but not 30 days before a fight when the fighters are going through the most rigorous part of their training regimen.

Its the most rigorous parts of their training that athletes take steroids to help them recover from their workouts so that they can come back sooner for another session of workouts.......during this time the Pacquiao team is against being tested.
It just does'nt make any sense at all, unless Pacquiao is just an outright cheat and is going to let this matchup go down the drain for obvious reasons.

 

They're not because its too costly......but obviously these types of money fights should be subjected to more stringent tests.....than just urine tests that have been outdated for detecting certain types of performance enhanceres for years now.

 

That's what i have been saying all along. Team Pac wants to control the window, WHY???

 

listen, the point is not whether urine testing is sufficient or not, the point is this. Why the **** are you drug testing experts only now crying about it like bitches, when these testing procedures have been used for years? A few months ago there were hardly any threads on the subject, apparently it was no big issue at the time but as soon as big Floyd made those accusations this place blows up with morons copy and pasting articles on how drug testing is not good enough. What suddenly made you people decide to go on this crusade? Because you want to save the sport from cheating and give it more integrity? Yeah okay we all know the real reason.

In answer to the thread. Yeah I read it and am not arguing it. Now answer my question or STFU.

 

WTF don't you understand about current testing methods being mediocre at best? This **** was going to come out eventually. It's like everything else in life, changes are made AFTER a tragic event happens, steroids arent any different.

 

How come this hasn't been neccessary in all other bouts?