For all that say unrine is enough, read this and then STFU

Because what pac has been doing no other current fighter has been, and its ****ing suspicious.

He is one of top boxers in the WORLD yet he is refusing to give blood during training camp, this is the only way the agency can check if he taking anything illegal.

I guess people would rather not know. I know one thing pac made the outrageous demand to make mayweather pay 10 million if he comes over the limit. WHEN HAS THAT BEEN DONE BEFORE?

Mayweather agreed to that

The sport is changing, so why shouldn't we?

 

I keep having to repeat myself and I'm getting ****ing sick of it. Never have I said that current testing methods are perfect. If you even read my post you would know I wasn't arguing that.


Tragic event? In this case what was the tragic event? Tell me. Oh yeah, Floyd senior making accusations. That's the "tragic event" in boxing that caused this whole issue to suddenly blow up. Just think about that for a second and you'll see how absurd it sounds.

 

This is an excerpt fro the Australian Academy of Science :

"Like hGH, EPO levels in the blood do not remain elevated for long, making detection difficult. The standard test doesn’t measure EPO levels; rather, it measures the concentration of red blood cells in a blood sample. But because this test is only an indicator of possible EPO abuse, more reliable tests are needed.
One method for detecting EPO currently being investigated involves a protein called transferrin, which could be an indirect marker of EPO use. Scientists are also looking at techniques to distinguish molecular differences between the EPO produced by the body and that manufactured in the laboratory. A method developed by Australian scientists uses blood profiles to detect athletes with a disproportionate number of young and maturing red blood cells (Box 1).

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The problem with EPO is that it is indirectly tested with a suspicion usually raised when the hematocrit level or the red cell proportion is higher than normal. But then again, altitude training, wherein the body would adjust to lower oxygen levels would start producing EPO to combat the low oxygen in the atmosphere thereby increasing red blood cells, also causes increased hematocrit. Also, athletes who are dehydrated would tend to have higher hematocrit.

 

News report just in

PAC, children urges pac to clear his name:rofl

 

Someone's more impressive than Mayweather so its suspicious?
Some biased crack-head makes something up, so now we have to change?
This is bull**** & everyone knows it. Pac's team have been very reasonable considering Pac's the superstar, there's no reson 4 suspiscion & he wouldn't have 2 do any extra tests against any other opponent.

 

Are you 12yrs old? You have no logic nor common sense - what part of "this was going to happen eventually" don't you understand? Drugs and technology change everyday - people out there spend all day trying to bypass current methods for things, so for all we know Pac (like A-rod and Shane Mosley) or any other athlete might be getting away with using illegal substances...You're just butthurt that it's Manny Pacquiao being accused of it.

 

EPO seems to be the problematic drug because it is also produced by the body naturally. Recombinant erythropetin is suspected based on the above, so regardless whether the testing is done in 30 days, 90 days, 10 days, you would not get the benefit of it if you dson't have increased red blood cells.

Divac's contention that Pac may already have stopped taking that drug, but if Pac would not have a high hematocrit after the fight (which would increase your cahnces of having high hematocrit because of dehydration), he basically gained nothing from EPO if he was taking one.

The rest of the drugs are cholesterol based, or steroids, or synthetic derivatives of it. These drugs are easily detected in the urine. It is just a matter of identifying any new synthetic ones. Because of the laboratory does not know of a custom built steroid, then they could not test for it.

HGH or human growth is also detected in the urine. So basically, all the drugs are detected or eventually will be detected in the urine once testing procedures catch up with any new designer drugs not yet known to WADA. But urine and serum are stored for a period of time and retested once WADA knows what to test for.

 

You have no answer to my question. Even in reply to my first thread on this topic all you could say was "current testing is weak" when I wasn't even arguing against that. So before I didn't understand anything about testing methods, and when you lose that arguement it changes to "you don't understand that this was going to come out eventually". Yeah sure, and "eventually" means whenever a Crackhead makes accusations. According to you that's the "tragic event" that caused this, yet I must be the 12 year old? :rofl

I don't think I can say anymore. I'm speaking sense and logic here but your hatred for Pac must be so deep that nothing can make you see sense.

 

Facts are u cant agree to 'random testing' and then try and dictate the days the fighter should be tested. Thats BS

 

Exactly, and that's the problem. I like the idea of using the best testing procedures available because it means less cheating. Most of these assholes are so wrapped up in their own personal feelings for these fighters that they miss that point completely.

 

Because the state athletic commissions don't have their **** together....Who cares why? If I have a choice I want the best testing available. Only a cheater wouldn't.

 

I think Pac agreed to any testing right after the fight. Since he doesn't want any needles on him pre fight, a post fight blood test would be a good compromise.

 

No, it wouldn't, not if testing was to cease 30 days before.

 

Did the article/experts say blood testing right after the fight(Pac's locker room) will not detect PED's ?

 

Yup, I'm not even going to reply to him anymore, it's impossible dealing with his kind...He completely misunderstood what I said about tragic events, I said steroids are not any different because boxing is already a dangerous sport, imagine if someone was juicing up...