For all that say unrine is enough, read this and then STFU

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by 1lehudson, Dec 24, 2009.


  1. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Once again 40 previous opponents and Floyd didn't make the same demands. If urine samples were a crap way to test for drugs, why didn't he ask his other opponents for random blood tests?

    I keep hearing the same thing from you about testing methods being ****. I'm not saying they are perfect, or even good because I don't know and I won't pretend to be an expert on something I'm not, but if there's a problem talk to the ****ing athletic commision, they make the damn rules. Jeez.

    Also I ask you, are you qualified to speak on the subject? What is your background on the subject? Why should I take your word over others that say the opposite? There may be articles supporting your claims but there are also articles countering it.

    why don't you answer the following quote that boxbox posted



    We also have a poster here on ESB, forgot his name who is probably the only person here who's qualified to speak on the subject. In his opinion, blood work is no more reliable than urine.
     
  2. Jsmoove

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    okay but why not just do the test and shut the accusations down? Why do we have Arum and Ariza and Roach doing this backpeddling and contractions and other "suggestions"? Why not have random testing up until the week before the fight or even two weeks? They will only take 5-10ml vials which is about 0.22%-0.16% of the total amount of blood (4.5-6 liters avg total). Don't see how that would drain him a week out before the fight. You have to admit Arum's demand for no testing 30 days out seems kinda off
     
  3. ero-sennin

    ero-sennin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Well that probably is the best thing for Pac to do now, but I wouldn't blame him if he said **** you and walked away.
     
  4. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    They are using the blood request to harrass Manny, straight up. If we agree that urine is just as valid as blood, then there is no barrier. Manny will give 3 samples of blood, the most important being post fight. The second sample can be random up until a week out from the fight per Roach's restrictions, so really... Why hasn't Mayweather signed?
     
  5. 1lehudson

    1lehudson Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Im not wrong I quote the man who invented hGH, the people that its thier life work to catch people using it, and you qoute some college kids, and that makes you right???
     
  6. Jsmoove

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    Didn't shane mosley get by without getting caught for awhile?

    Um Arum wants no testing 30 days prior so maybe he should get the memo from Roach

    Like I said if certain baseball players had "issues" with drug test scheduling would it be fair to ju whst not test them or tell them when the tests ile other players are willing to do random testing?
     
  7. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    :lol: the nerve of some people! Gotta love how people try to pass opinions off as facts.
     
  8. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He didn't invent ****. HGH is a natural hormone produced in your body dumbass. They used to have to extract if from cadavers until recombinant HGH was developed, aka rHGH. If you want to stick you head down your pants go ahead, but the fact is urine can test for HGH.

    And HGH does nothing for athletes except make them slower and fatigued.

    But lets not look at the truth.
     
  9. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He got away with it back in 2003, until the grand jury shutdown Balco, the lab he and a shitload of other athletes were tied into. They made him testify and he admitted to using PEDs. The drugs were found, and tests were developed to detect them.

    THIS MEANS THEY CAN DETECT THE DRUGS MOSLEY WAS ON AND HE CAN'T GET CHEAT DOING THAT ANYMORE, CAPICHE?
     
  10. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Shut it boy.

     
  11. rjamesd1

    rjamesd1 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    :thumbsup
     
  12. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    You seriously cant tell me ****! You stans of Pacman are neglecting the truth....When in the **** can you tell proctors of the drug test when you can take the test when its suppose to be random??...Dont come to me with that ****!

    You arguement is weak given that Manny has agreed to take but wants to take it on his time...Shut the **** up with that homeboy!:hi:
     
  13. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    A man would look at the facts and make up his opinion with the real info in front of him. A man would. A fanboy would continue to spin and spin and regurgitate the same tired old arguments.

    Which are you?
     
  14. Rudyard

    Rudyard **** How You Feel!! HOE! banned

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    :patsch What the **** are you talking about...Are you dumb or are you just thick?

    What the **** does that got do with what I've posted...I could care less what the **** you think honestly!

    That still wont erase the fact that a random drug test isnt suppose to be dictated and scheduled when a fighter feels like...The proctor of the test chooses it.
     
  15. thesmokingm

    thesmokingm Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Ah I see you're back to hugging your security blanket and wishing the evil facts filled world away.