For ALL the haters: Boxing is not dead, it's bigger now than it's ever been!

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by JET, Jan 4, 2008.


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  1. JET

    JET G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    I know many people will initially disagree, but let me explain my view. True, boxing is no longer dominated by the U.S. and is suffering from a lack of American superstars (maybe like never before), but it has more international superstars and representation than ever. The NBA went through the same thing a few years back when all of a sudden an influx of international ballers came into the league and started taking over. American b-ballers were coming into the league too soon and without sufficient development while the international b-ballers were being well-schooled fundamentally; thus the interanational ballers thrived and most American rookies dived. Same thing is happening to boxing, and just as it didn't hurt the NBA (it only brought it closer and made it more marketable to the world audience) it isn't hurting boxing. What needs to be done is, the American tv networks need to start broadcasting these international guys and the American fighters need to stay in the gym a little longer before they lace 'em up to make a quick buck or set out on that long road to glory.
     
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  2. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    not dead, but not bigger than ever either
     
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  3. Caper

    Caper How about a fair shake? banned Full Member

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    Strange.....

    I would think since we are on this site boxing is and always has been alive and kicking so I find no need to try and push the obivious.
     
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  4. scott is cool

    scott is cool Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Why would a boxing hater, be on here anyway?
     
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  5. Brighton bomber

    Brighton bomber Loyal Member Full Member

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    Boxing in the last couple of years has looked better than it has for some time. After fights stopped being shown on terrestial TV it really did suffer. But it seems boxing has had a mini revival recently in the U.K.


    None of my friends ever watched boxing unless they were around my place and it happened to be on. Yet the success of Calzaghe, Hatton, Haye and the rising star Khan seems to have made boxing more main stream. Everyone was talking about Hatton/Mayweather and a few friends of mine even paid for the fight which is something they have never done before and they are even looking to go see a live fight sometime soon.

    Boxing is far from dead and as long as fighters continue to get exposure from terrestial TV we will continue to see a revival in the sport and bigger and bigger PPV figures.
     
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  6. JET

    JET G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    You're right about those rookies, but they all came in after the initial international surge. Just hope that same caliber group of rookies can appear on the American boxing scene soon.
     
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  7. JET

    JET G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    They probably wouldn't, but the intent is to catch your attention with the thread title .... mission accomplished:good
     
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  8. JET

    JET G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    Does boxing get regular exposure on mainstream tv networks in the UK? I know it barely gets any here in the US and I feel that's a major part of our problem.
     
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  9. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Boxing is far from dead as a whole, the Heavyweight divsion is struggling however, I think its the combination of lack of talent, postponements, no personality in the top fighters, and the best matches are not being made. Other than the Heavyweights, boxings is as strong as ever.
     
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  10. cardstars

    cardstars Gamboa is GOD Full Member

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    Exactly what I was going to say. Look a few years before the rookies mentioned and you will see rookie classes dominated by international players
     
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  11. JET

    JET G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    You forgot what may be the biggest problem with the heavies: lack of dedication to their craft! So many heavyweights are overweight and in denial. I think most of them feel like since there is no weight limit, why worry about making a certain weight? So most of them focus on power and getting the fight over with as soon as possible via knockout, but what happens is since they are unconditioned they perform sloppily even against mediocre competition.
     
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  12. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    True, just like the guy in your avatar who is extremely skilled, but lacks good nutrition and work ethic. The fact that our best Heavyweight fighters look like the average Joe, is certainly not a good sign for the future. Povetkin, Chagaev, Iggy, and Peter are all top guys in the divsion or title holders, yet they refuse to come in the ring at a good weight or at there peak performance to compete at the top level.
     
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  13. JET

    JET G.O.A.T. Full Member

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    Exactamundo! I just hope David Haye doesn't succomb to the same lazyman syndrome when he moves up. Speaking about that guy in my avatar ... I am disappointed, so much heavyweight potential ruined by steroids and Nathan brand hot dogs for breakfast.
     
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  14. Punisher33

    Punisher33 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    It is a very sad story about Toney, I read somewhere Roach wont be training him Toney anymore, he sounds upset as you are about Toney's wieght gain. I just wish Toney would get down to the weight he did when he fought Booker awhile back, he had great built that night, plus his performance top notch as well.
     
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  15. pudding

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    PPV numbers don't mean a damn thing when journeymen boxers can't make a living. Joe Louis could fill a stadium back when boxing was a healthy sport. It wasn't the fact that Joe louis drew the fans that made boxing healthy, it was because the fans support went down to the club level. 70 years ago journeymen boxers could make a living at boxing.
     
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