For all you pac haters - proof & concrete evidence

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  1. thugnerdx1

    thugnerdx1 New Member Full Member

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    I am going to offer proof as to why PAC-MAN does not want some one poking needles to draw blood from him within 2 weeks of a fight.

    I ACCEPT ANY AND ALL REBUTTLES THAT ARE ACTUALLY INTELLIGENT AND BACKED BY EVIDENCE. NONE OF THIS WITCH HUNT STUFF. IF THERE IS NO PROOF OR EVIDENCE TO BACK A CLAIM, I DON'T WANT TO HEAR IT.

    PAC HATERS Argument #1 - Drawing blood would not affect PAC's performance.

    Evidence #1 - Olympic athletes use a method called blood doping to enhance their performance before an event. This is the technique of drawing blood several weeks in advance and then reinjecting this blood right before an event to have a surplus which would increase performance.

    "Controlled studies of this technique have suggested a 5% to 30% improvement in measures of endurance."

    http://www.medscape.com/viewarticle/408596_4

    BOXING FANS Conclusion #1 - Because the increase of blood increases endurance, the decrease of blood decreases performance. This would back up the statement by PAC that drawing blood for tests affects his performance, in particular endurance.

    PAC HATERS Argument #2 - Mayweather would also be subjected to the drawing of blood and therefore the decrease in endurance.

    Evidence #2 - Mayweather's style requires very little energy and resources because of his defensive style. Mayweather is not the agressor. Pacquiao's style is aggressive, so proper endurance is key to maintain the same type of aggression in the later rounds. Mayweather's style capitalizes on the inability of fighters to sustain aggression and eventually gas out.

    Reference - Mayweather vs Judah. Mayweather basically slept throughout the fight until the 9th round. By then, Judah's punches were no longer crisp. Mayweather then began picking Zab Judah apart in the 9th. Zab was probably one of the only fighter's that could beat Mayweather, mainly due to his speed. But it could not carry him through the fight. Thus, Mayweather pulled through on a decision.

    BOXING FANS Conclusion #2 - Gassing out an opponent late in the rounds would give Mayweather the needed edge to defeat an opponent.

    PAC HATERS Argument #3 - Mayweather's style does not require MORE energy than PAC-MAN's.

    Evidence #3 - PAC threw 580 punches against DLH. Mayweather threw 481 punches against DLH. That is a 100 punch difference (against the same person opponent) which requires a much greater endurance level. They both fought DLH and both beat DLH, but one style used more energy. Mayweather even stated that, "He weakened DLH for PAC-MAN." So PAC-MAN had to use more energy than Mayweather on a weakened opponent.

    Conclusion #3 - Offense requires energy. Pacquiao's style require's more total energy than Mayweather in order to beat an opponent. Mayweather can beat the same opponent with a less total energy requirement than Pacquiao.

    PAC HATERS Argument #4 - How the heck would Mayweather know that blood drawn would affect Pacquiao so much and give Mayweather the edge needed to pull out a win??

    Evidence #4 - PAC gave a public interview after the Morales fight long before any questions about steriods use were in question, stating that he lost his fight to Morales because he felt weak after taking a blood test 2 weeks prior to his fight.

    "PAC stated that in his first clash with Erik “El Terrible” Morales, the records of his Los Angeles blood and others tests were lost and Pacquiao was ordered by the NSAC to undergo another blood test a couple of days before the fight. Despite vehement protests Pacquiao was forced to take the test to prevent the possibility of the Commission not allowing the fight to take place. Trainer Freddie Roach said later that the late blood test had affected Pacquiao and that was one of the reasons he lost to Morales in their first fight."

    BOXING FANS Conclusion #4 - Knowing the great lengths and sneaky and unsportmanslike tactics that the Mayweather's camp will use to protect PBF's pristine record. They learned of this weakness and demanded this as a requirement in order to have a fight. In an interview with Mayweather about his fight with Pacquiao, Mayweather stated, "Pacquiao can be defeated, he has been defeated before, there is a known formula to Pacquiao, Mayweather [himself] has not been defeated, there is no known formula. Pacquiao gave away this formula to beat him in a public interview. Mayweather being the cunning strategist that he is, is now using it to his advantage to pin Pacquiao in a corner. It is a win win situation for Mayweather, if PAC does not accept his demands, this will create doubt in the minds of easily persuaded people.

    PAC HATERS Argument #5 - How do we really know that blood drawn 2 week's prior to a fight can actually affect someone??

    Back to the subject of blood doping. When an athelete would remove blood from their system to store for use prior to an event, the athelete would have to have the blood drawn month's in advance before an event, NOT WEEKS. This is because the body needs to restore the red blood count back to a normal level.

    "Our bodies continuously replace the lost RBC’s , but in blood removed from the body, the number of RBC’s steadily decline, never to be replaced. It usually takes 3 to 8 weeks for a person to re-establish normal RBC levels"

    http://www.texarkanacollege.edu/~mstorey/beckham.html

    BOXING FANS Conclusion #5 - It is medically proven to take 3 - 8 weeks to re-establish normal RBC levels. This means that blood drawn within 2 weeks of a fight would guarentee a drop in performance due to a low blood count. Multiple blood tests starting anywhere within 2 MONTHS of a fight would have an effect.

    PAC HATERS Argument #6 - OK, so this prove's that drawing blood can weaken the sytem, but it still does not mean that PAC is not hiding something sinister.

    Pacquiao agreed to have a blood test drawn within 24 hours of the fight! HE IS WILLING TO CLEAR ANY DOUBT IN ANYONE'S MIND!! THIS WOULD SUFFICE ANY QUESTION ABOUT STERIODS WHATSOEVER. YOU CANNOT WASH AWAY ANY STERIOD TRACES WITHIN ONE DAY. THE QUICKEST ONE TAKES 4 DAYS, MOST TAKE 3 WEEKS TO 18 MONTHS.

    BOXING FANS #6 FINAL CONCLUSION - MAYWEATHER DID NOT WANT TO FIGHT PACQUIAO. THE TEST WITHIN 24 HOURS TO PROVE HE IS CLEAN DOES NOT MATTER. IT IS THE WEAKENING OF PAC-MANS FEROCIOUSNESS AND FIGHTING SPIRIT THAT IS IMPORTANT.

    MAYWEATHER IS AN EXCELLENT PR STRATEGIST. HE HAS DUCKED SO MANY SO FAR AND EVEN CONVINCED MANY SHEEP TO BELIEVE HIM. PACQUIAO HAS MAINTAINED SPORTSMANLIKE CONDUCT AND I HOPE HE SUES THE **** OUT OF MAYWEATHER.
     
  2. Grillinnap

    Grillinnap Flomos are morons Full Member

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    This is gonna be a looooooooooong thread. :yep
     
  3. Big_Bill_Bronzy

    Big_Bill_Bronzy Well-Known Member Full Member

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    That's a big pile of ****! Stupid *******! I hate them!
     
  4. Chris85

    Chris85 Boxing Addict Full Member

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  5. Toopretty

    Toopretty Custom made Full Member

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    If I see another cut and paste from one of these fish face trannies.
     
  6. Detroit

    Detroit Get Money Full Member

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    Pac is fighting Clottey on March 13th....
     
  7. dilayro

    dilayro Active Member Full Member

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    well put...:good
     
  8. Auracle21

    Auracle21 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    blood doping is illegal btw. and olympic athletes dont do that because they are lacking blood they do that to increase their carbon dioxide intake for higher perseverance. so that theory is thrown at the window. people die by blood doping. pac is just making excuses. nice thy though
     
  9. p4p_kid

    p4p_kid Well-Known Member Full Member

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    PAC is a GOD in his country.. He has so much money with all the endorsements, shares and business.. $40 million is nothing to him.. Cause he will not allow himself to be bullied by MAYWEATHER, He won't just accept all of MAYWEATHER's demand.

    What i can see here is. It's not about money, it's about winning his biggest fight. He wants to be 100% once he step in the ring with FLOYD.
     
  10. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    ok so why not 14 days...that is not within 2 weeks...roach said they would accept 5 days...maybe he should be the first to read ur thread if he has an hour to kill
     
  11. pauliemayweathe

    pauliemayweathe Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lies lies and more lies...so sad:thumbsup maybe floyd does not want to fight him while he is on steroids then find out the next day?
     
  12. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Pac agreed to have a blood/urine test immediately after the fight. How accurate can you get? It's not about the testing, it's about Void's fear of Pac.

    Void fans will not comment on that, nor will the comment on what Void, Sr. said about his not wanting Void, Jr. to fight Pac after the Cotto fight! Void, Sr. is afrad, so is Void, Jr. I posted that Void would never fight Pac for any amount of money, and I was correct. Void is a coward and is losing so many of his feathers!
     
  13. thekid

    thekid SEC Full Member

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    It's me everybody farmboxer i say void, void, void, I'm so cool. I hate void, him and his homies broke into my house and jizzed all over my family.
     
  14. megavolt

    megavolt Constantly Shadowboxing Full Member

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    Like I mentioned in another thread, probly it had to do with their lack of communication.
     
  15. Farmboxer

    Farmboxer VIP Member Full Member

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    Void has already refused to fight Pac by Dec. 2nd.