For Anyone Interested....Official scorecard round by round of Marciano-Charles I

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Courtesy of the New York Times


    Referee Ruby Goldstein


    Round: 1 Charles 2
    Round: 2 Marciano 1
    Round: 3 Even
    Round: 4 Charles 2
    Round: 5 Marciano 2
    Round: 6 Marciano 2
    Round: 7 Charles 1
    Round: 8 Charles 1
    Round: 9 Marciano 1
    Round: 10 Marciano 1
    Round: 11 Marciano 1
    Round: 12 Even
    Round: 13 Marciano 2
    Round: 14 Charles 1
    Round: 15 Marciano 2


    Goldstein's Scorecard: 8 rounds to 5 with 2 even for Rocky Marciano
    (Points 13 to 7 favor Marciano)




    Judge Harold Baines


    Round: 1 Charles 1
    Round: 2 Charles 1
    Round: 3 Marciano 1
    Round: 4 Charles 2
    Round: 5 Even
    Round: 6 Marciano 2
    Round: 7 Charles 1
    Round: 8 Marciano 1
    Round: 9 Marciano 2
    Round: 10 Marciano 3
    Round: 11 Marciano 2
    Round: 12 Charles 1
    Round: 13 Marciano 2
    Round: 14 Charles 1
    Round: 15 Marciano 3


    Harold Gaines Scorecard: 8 rounds to 6 with 1 even for Rocky Marciano
    (16 to 7 in Points for Marciano)




    Judge Arthur Aidala


    Round: 1 Charles 1
    Round: 2 Charles 1
    Round: 3 Charles 1
    Round: 4 Charles 2
    Round: 5 Marciano 1
    Round: 6 Marciano 2
    Round: 7 Even
    Round: 8 Charles 1
    Round: 9 Marciano 1
    Round: 10 Marciano 2
    Round: 11 Marciano 2
    Round: 12 Marciano 1
    Round: 13 Marciano 2
    Round: 14 Marciano 1
    Round: 15 Marciano 2


    Arthur Aidala's scorecard: 9 rounds to 5 with 1 even for Rocky Marciano (14 to 6 in points for Marciano
     
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  2. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    What was your card SQ?

    You got the card for Walcott-Marciano? For a future thread perhaps...
     
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  3. guilalah

    guilalah Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Thanks, SUZIEQ49!
     
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  4. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Mcgrain unfortunerly only rounds 1, 4, 5, 6, 10 and 15 exist on film. no others exist sadly i dont know why all those entertaining rounds were lost.


    I had walcott-marciano I 7-5 after 12 for walcott, ill post the round by round tomorrow.
     
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  5. The Morlocks

    The Morlocks Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  6. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So, give the even rounds to Charles, and it's basically a one-round fight on two cards.

    I know they used a supplemental points system back then, in case of a draw, but does anyone have a breakdown in how points were awarded? Like, how do you win eight rounds and also get 13 points? And how do you win five rounds and only get 7 points?
     
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  7. Unforgiven

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    From looking at the OP it seems the points correspondent to the rounds won, by what margin they were won.
    So, (I'm guessing now), a fighter gets 1 point minimum for winning the round, but gets 2 or 3 points for winning a round more decisively.

    So, the fight is decided first on rounds won, but if that doesn't produce a winner, it goes to the points, ie. the margin or decisiveness of the win of the individual rounds is taken into account.

    Maybe ?
     
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