For how long should Mayweather be considered p4p No.1 if he only keeps on fighting...

So if you keep telling yourself, and get the ESB clique behind you, it makes it true?

 

And you don't think those jabs to the body, straight rights and left hooks were setting up shots? Watch the fight again. You'll see Hatton looking for a jab to the body and getting hit with a straight right; looking for a straight right and getting hit with a left hook; looking for a left hook and getting hit with a straight right. One time, Mayweather feinted with a jab and threw an uppercut. So now he's sitting on his punches, setting up his shots, knocking the guy out, yet he's pot shotting? I guess we'll just agree to dissagree here.

That's fine, and my counter argument would be that he looked fluid in the Mitchell, Judah, Baldo, and DLH fights. It's hard to look really fluid against a guy that's constantly holding and grappling with you.

 

Just because those shots to the head and body (one at a time mind you) were to set up shots later in the fight, doesn't mean they weren't pot shots. The feinting is a different thing altogether.

You have a way of trying to break things down to some sort of basic element that doesn't include it's context. Mayweather may very well have been thinking ahead. However, he was not throwing combos on any regular basis like he used to at the lower weights. I consider that potshotting. Heavyweights throw one punch at a time alot, ok.....that just means they potshot ALOT. They throw lazy punches sometimes to set up other shots (which is what I meant when I said they throw one shot to set up another sometimes. It's an immdiate setup for a punch coming behind it, not something set up for rounds later). But one shot at a time then resetting is my definition of potshotting.

I don't think Mayweather looked fluid in any fight you mentioned other that Mitchell, and parts of the Judah fight.

 

I'll address this soon.

Of course he was thinking ahead, he always thinks ahead. Watch the fight again. You'll see in one of the rounds, Mayweather crouching and hitting Hatton with about 2 or 3 jabs to the body. In that same round, Mayweather crouches again, Hatton drops his hands because he believes Mayweather is going to throw another jab to the body. Mayweather suprises him by cracking him with a hard straight right flush to the dome; a punch that buckles Hatton's knees

Mayweather was definately hitting Hatton with one shot a time for a good portion of the fight. However, in the DLH fight, he did just what was described in the highlighted part. He would hit DLH in the stomach with a jab, then immediately cracked him with a hook after DLH dropped his hands. This happened several times in the fight. In the Judah fight, he kept throwing the straight right, left combo after the 4th round. In fact, he hit Judah with a ton of 2 and 3 punch combos. I don't know anyone who could say with a straight face that he potshotted Mitchell.

Are you seriously going to tell me he didn't look fluid against Blado? Baldo's lack of speed and wide punches made him look like Pernell Whitaker out there. He was very fast and fluid against Baldo. He was pretty fluid against DLH as well. However, I'll let that one go. That's a never ending argument.

 

Mayweather's legacy isnt greatly improved fighting reruns. Cotto, Calzaghe vs Hopkins winner could go a long way towards claiming that spot.

 

Shooting one shot at a time then resettting to shoot another shot is potshotting. Nothing you said there changes that. No one has cast doubt on it's effectivness. But it is what it is. It isn't combination punching that's for sure.

As for the other fights? No, he wasn't fluid in his punching. He never resembled Whitaker at all IMO. Not against Baldomir or anyone else. He was moving in and out very well, I'll give him that.

 

Give him one more year.

 

No one else is closing the gap on Floyd....so time can only tell.

 

I agree with big reg, kg as usual your mouth is filled with dirty baby wipes quit lying on money may. the fact that you think he should have stayed at 140 shows how stupid you are.

floyd has achieved what no fighter in modern history could achieve. how he did it was as impressive as the people he beat to accomplish such a feat. to try and diminish such a great champion shows what a **** mouth you really are.:hey :deal

 

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Oscar was a favorite by many the first time they fought and the fight, tho uneventful, was close...

Hatton was top ten p4p when he was dominated and stopped by Floyd.

This alone keeps him in the top spot. Tho there is really no reason at all he should be fighting Hatton again.

 

I just explained how Mayweather was throwing 1,2 combos against DLH, yet you still claim he was hiting him once and resetting. I also told you how he was constantly hitting Judah with the straight right, left hook combo. Did you not see that in my post? Please explain to me how this is one shot then resetting? Please explain how Mayweather chasing Mitchell down, sitting on his shots, hitting him with two and three punch combos, knocking him down, and finally knocking him out is potshotting?

So now we're going from fluid to fluid in his punches? Ok, even still his punches were sharp and accurate. I guess Baldo's face got cut up in the first round off of sloppy punching. And yes, they way he was ducking and slipping Baldo's punches, Floyd looked like Sweat Pea out there.

 

Yeah I don't know where some of these people are getting these things from. I could've swore I saw someone write that Kessler is fighting at a higher level than Floyd. Kessler just got his ass whooped. Even worse, he looked lost out thre and made no adjustments. What the **** kind of level is that?