For how long should Mayweather be considered p4p No.1 if he only keeps on fighting...

Exactly, i don't think Hatton can do anything different in a rematch. If it was a close fight then sure rematch however he was completely dominated.

 

I agree. I can understand the DLH rematch. I'm not sold on the Hatton rematch.

 

Yes, you explained. This doesn't mean I agree with you. I disagree. You like to point out specific instances to deny claims of generality. In those fights, Mayweather mostly threw one punch at a time and reset. It's as simple as that. Your explanation was unnecessary in the first place. I had already said he sometimes threw 2 punches, but mostly one punch and almost never threw combos. He certainly didn't, and nothing you type up here can change that.

It isn't my fault you assumed something out of context. This entire time I have been talking about his punching. The initial post you quoted said that he wasn't as fluid and didn't throw as many combos since he left 140. You took from that what you would, presumably looking for something to dissect.

And no, Mayweather never looked like Whitaker. You can "explain it to me", ask me to "re read your post" as much as you like. Whitaker was far more fluid in his punching style and switching from defense to offense.

Why did you mention the Mitchell fight again? Two posts or so ago I said the Mitchell fight and part of the Judah fight he looked fluid. This is what I mean. You are dissecting the conversation out of context and the entire point gets lost. If you are trying to say that Mayweather has been a fluid puncher who throws combos at 147 and higher, you need to rewatch 130-140. He is not the same fighter.

 

Ok, so now we agree that he looked fluid and didn't potshot against Mitchell and Judah. Trust me, I've watched plenty of Floyd fights. I've never once argued that he threw more combinations at 147. I even admitted that he threw mostly one punch at a time against Baldo and Hatton. However, if you really want to break down his career, he did alot of potshotting at 130 and 135. From the N'Dou fight until the Judah fight, he sat down on his punches much more consistently,and threw a good amount of combinations in those fights as well.

Against Hatton he was definately sitting down on his punches and focusing on punching more for power rather than scoring. However, he only threw in combinations in a few rounds. If want to call it pot shotting, be my guest. That's another pointless debate. In the Baldo fight he was certainly throwing one punch at a time, and focusing more on scoring than hurting Baldo. There's no arguments there, except that you didn't think he was very fluid, whatever. In the DLH fight, he threw mostly 1,2 combos(except in the 5th round). He mixed it up in that fight. At times he was just trying to score, other times(particuarly late in the fight) he was putting some mustard on those shots. For me, I saw him standing his ground and throwing 1,2's a good amount of the time. I also saw him getting in one shot then getting out. That fight was a mixed bag. However, so were some of his fights at 130 and 135.

 

I don't disagree entirely on any points there. Much of this is opinion and therefore pointless to debate. I never disagreed with Mitchell or Judah (only partially on Judah IMO), I just made a general statement about his tendencies at 147. He was more exciting at 140 and below IMO because he threw combos more often and even when potshotting, he sat down on his punches more often.

I am sure you have seen most of his fights, as have I. We aren't going to see the same things each time out.

 

Oscar's not rated P4P#1, nor is this 1999. Oscar fought everyone he was supposed to fight when he was supposed to fight them if we are talking about his prime. Therefore article has no point here. How would the world have seen it had Oscar said he didn't want to negotiate with King in 1999, or that Trinidad didn't bring in the money. That situation is more in keeping with PBF.

 

great post bigreg:good you saw what I saw kg being a ****er with a mouth full of ****:deal don't waste your time with him he is a hater through and through and has never given floyd the credit he truly deserves, and never will:deal