For my 5,000th post : My Pound-for-Pound Top 50 Fighters of All-Time..

Discussion in 'Classic Boxing Forum' started by DINAMITA, Nov 24, 2008.


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  1. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I've not left him out of mine but there are 8 divisions so if you only select the top 7 from each division then it could justified.
     
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  2. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    deja vu
     
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  3. horst

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    Call an ambulance, I just had a cardiac arrest due to shock when I saw that every single one of your points was whining about how an older fighter had been overlooked in favour of a more recent one. :dead:dead:dead

    And for what it's worth I agree with Dina, Jack Dempsey is not a top 50 fighter by any criteria you care to use, no way no how. If he had ever fought and beaten someone like Harry Wills, you may have had a point. As it is, you don't.
     
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  4. horst

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    Yawn. Probably the most pedantic piece of pointless garbage ever posted on this forum. Many congratulations on your rapier wit in disputing the title of a thread from the best part of three years ago.
     
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  5. horst

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    And FYI, this is a borderline moronic point to make.

    Louis should rank above Ezzard Charles because prime Louis would have "licked" him?

    A - Ezzard Charles was not a natural heavyweight, he was prime at lightheavyweight, so why would the fact that a heavyweight could beat a lightheavyweight mean that the heavyweight should rank higher as an ATG?

    B - You will probably soil yourself at the very idea, but to most non-twisted-by-bias fans, prime Vitali Klitschko (being 250lbs, 6ft 8in, 80in reach) would "lick" prime Joe Louis (being 200lbs, 6ft 2in, 76in reach), but does that mean Vitali should rank higher as an ATG than Louis? Obviously not, considering Louis was an infinitely more talented boxer, beat far better fighters, and had an all-round vastly superior career. Thus, H2H is far from the be-all-and-end-all when it comes to ranking fighters.
     
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  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Haha pop think you need to calm down man, you had a run in with headgiver today or something?
     
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  7. The Mighty One

    The Mighty One Well-Known Member Full Member

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    What I said is true in spite of your attempt to criticize and sarcasm.
     
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  8. kopejh

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    he's right though. what was the point of that post? this is a boxing forum
     
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  9. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    dej vu ? So P if I defend the legacy of Dempsey,it is "deja vu", but if YOU
    and other naysayers tear him down repeatedly, it is NOT "deja vu " ?
    My convictions are just as important to me, defending the Jack Dempsey
    of Toledo,along with a slew of others who saw him ringside, as your low oponion of him, you constantly post. Remember P, I have possibly as much integrity, as you and your compatriots who despise Jack Dempsey...Strange as it may seem to you,and others...Cheers...
     
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  10. Pachilles

    Pachilles Boxing Addict Full Member

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    By 'tearing him down' you mean making points of facts
     
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  11. Son of Gaul

    Son of Gaul Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    What's the point of this post? It's a boxing forum so it's assumed that all discussions/threads will involve boxers...unless otherwise noted. Not to mention that the first 2 of your 4 are grossly overrated.
     
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  12. The Mighty One

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    The reference was to "fighters"....where else could I list top fighters?....if this was in the MMA forum I would have included boxers because its ALL fighting.
     
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  13. burt bienstock

    burt bienstock Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Pray tell me P, what POINT of FACT are you making when you respond to my post by saying "deja vu" ? It is an attempt to say "here you go again" ,but it is not FACTS.... The darn fact is that Jack Dempsey from
    1917 to 1923, NEVER LOST A FIGHT. THAT IS A FACT. What he would have done in the postponed fight with Harry Wills is an OPINION, not a FACT. What Ali would have done against Larry Holmes in their primes is an OPINION,and not a FACT. And so with Dempsey/Wills.
    Today's clinical hatred of Jack Dempsey is not BASED on WHO he fought in his prime. It is based on who he DID NOT FIGHT in his prime. And that is
    conjecture, and not facts. Not including Jack Dempsey in the 50 top fighters in history,is downright LUDICROUS and BIASED. Yours truly,deja vu.:hi:
     
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  14. Jorodz

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    hey bb, solid post. even if i don't agree with all your views on dempsey, i'm with you on this one.

    i've been wondering what your thoughts are on ted lewis and where he places? (apologies if you've already answered)
     
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  15. Pachilles

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    - Won title against a 3 years inactive, shot, 37 year old - FACT
    - Inactive 3 years of his title reign - FACT
    - Failed to meet his no.1 contender his entire title reign - FACT
    - Defended instead against the losing leftovers of a Middleweight he ducked, rather than fighting - FACT
    - Drew the colour line - FACT
    - Outboxed and lost to a morbidly obese ex-flyweight - FACT
    - Knocked clean out in 10 seconds to a journeyman with a close to losing record - FACT
    - Outclassed twice to the best fighter he did not duck, a career light heavyweight - FACT

    These are facts. You are so biassed it is unreal
     
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