For those of you who critisise Amir Khan's level of opposition

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by David UK, Dec 21, 2007.


  1. David UK

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    You really need to remind yourselves that Amir Khan has only just turned 21. Most top fighters were/are still amateurs at this stage of their development.

    Here are the ages when some of our best fighters turned pro

    Joe Calzaghe 21(almost 22)
    Ricky Hatton 19 (first challenge for British title at 22)
    Clinton Woods 22
    Junior Witter 22
    David Haye 22

    So even if you're unsatisfied with the level of Khan's opponents(I personally am not) bear in mind that the above men were fighting a FAR LOWER standard of opposition when they were 19 and 20. The point being that Khan still has plenty to learn and has plenty of time to do so without being rushed into fights he's not yet ready for. Having said that, I'm 100%convinced he'd beat Thaxton right now, but the problem with that is that once the British title is won it limits to number of 'learning' fights possible that he still clear needs
     
  2. rooq

    rooq Rooq's Boxing Promoter Full Member

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    thats the only reason i'm disappointed with the next fight. i think he could beat thaxton now and then he'd be done with the domestic scene, and his "learning" fights could come against european and south american opposition.

    he'll still probably face thaxton, but jono is diminishing slightly with every fight...i don't want him to have slid too much by the time the fight happens.

    and as i said in the other thread...i think the choice of opposition could be the start of some elaborate manouvering towards a vacant wbo title, and this will reduce the chance to see one of our best prospects in competitive fights.
     
  3. David UK

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    Until he leaves Warren that is!!
     
  4. elle

    elle Journeywoman Full Member

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    You may be totally convinced Khan would beat Thaxton right now but I'm not sure that Warren and Khan's team have the same belief.

    May explain why Khan isn't facing Thaxton next after calling him out this week. It now seems even more ridiculous for Khan to suggest Thaxton can't break an egg when he is then matched with a 30 year old guy who has only 5 KO's on his record.

    For me Thaxton would be a much more acceptable opponent after Earl. Since Thaxton was made mandatory for Khan's Commonwealth Title Khan has already had one more voluntary defence (against Earl) but there must be a limit before he has to face his mandatory, vacate or be stripped.
     
  5. robpalmer135

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    C/W belt doesnt mean anything so i doubt he will be fussed if hes stripped. Spot on David UK, his opposition level is far higher than anyone other than Haye for his first 15 fights.
     
  6. elle

    elle Journeywoman Full Member

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    Even if Khan is stripped of the Commonwealth there is still the matter of Thaxton's British Title which Khan is mandatory for.

    Its been reported that Hennessy has put up approx 300 grand in an attempt to secure this fight.

    As for the comparison about Khan and Haye's first 15 fights - think Calzaghe won the British Title in something like his 14th fight.
     
  7. David UK

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    Yes, although Joe was 23 1/2 when he won it. If Khan hasn't won the British title(or better) by then I'll be the first to complain, but for now, at just turned 21 he's doing just fine
     
  8. victorhugo4222

    victorhugo4222 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    the thing is though none of the other fighters mentioned were sayig they would be world champ in 5 fights thats why trhe expectancy level goes way up. if hes serious then surely ne needs to be fighter better opposition than he has?
     
  9. nufc16

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    i think peoples problem is mainly they want to see a steady progression, and his next opponent seems a step back from limond/earl. same thing happened after the komjathi fight. dont really think it benefits khan if he does go from this dane straight to romanov. can understand why they'd want a fight inbetween a romanov/thaxton fight as the earl fight didnt really give khan much of a chance to show his greater maturity as a fighter, but unless his next opponent has a decent chin and can stick around 5-6 rounds, then its pretty pointless.
     
  10. Smazz20

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    He's fighting on a regualr enough basis as it is. There's no need to rush him. Thaxton should of been his next fight. That's Britain done and dusted for him and then he can go on to fight the top Europeans.
     
  11. bumdujour

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    what pisses people off is that everyone believes khan to have a glass jaw.

    and instead of stepping up and facing someone with some pop in his gloves, all he does is put more gas on the fire by continuing to fight featherfisted opposition.

    khan and his management have to get that in order to satisfy his critics (who are just about everyone in boxing) he will have to stop fighting guys like this kristiansen his is fighting next and take on someone like the euro champ from belarus.
     
  12. Raashid

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    The criticism Khan is getting based on his own predictions of being a world champion by 22. If he'd simply admitted he needs time to develop and will fight for a world title when ready, then there probably wouldn't be the criticism. Also, he gets massive TV exposure for fighting weak opposition. The other fighters didn't get publicity until they were close to fighting world class opponents. The ciricism should be aimed more at Frank Warren though. As many forum members have pointed out, he does this with all British fighters in his stable.
     
  13. Axl_Nose

    Axl_Nose Well-Known Member Full Member

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    My problem with Khan isnt his level of opposition, its expected that at this stage in his career he has to learn his trade .. Khan looks a decent prospect but hes a millionaire already and hes acheived nothing, while other decent prospects have to come up the hard way, all this bull**** hype surrounding him irritates me, ive heard his name mentioned in the same breath as true greats like Robinson, Ali and Leonard .... I dont think people have a problem with Khan himself, its just the ridiculous crap that Warren and ITV dish out which people hate, real boxing fans wont be convinced with Khan until he proves he can take a shot, and if your getting dropped by a guy like Willie Limond this early in your career then it doesnt bode too well when people like Juan Diaz is in the division .. Its always the same in this country, we propel decent prospects way above what they're capable of, Wayne Rooney has been compared to Pele and Maradona, Khan has been compared to Robinson and Leonard, only a moron with no knowledge would buy into this kind of ****
     
  14. TFFP

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    I don't have a problem with Khan's opposition, his money, or his attitude

    He's fought a lot of bums. Big ****ing deal. He's 21, and starting off his career. I'd love to know about all these guys that have done more than Amir Khan at a similar age

    He's rich. So ****ing what? What has that got to do with us? As long as it doesn't ruin his dedication I have no problem, and there is no evidence that it has

    Nothing wrong with his attitude. In my opinion he comes across well for the most part. Get's a bit silly at times, but he's only a kid. He seems to work really hard, and the improvement fight after fight proves it
     
  15. elle

    elle Journeywoman Full Member

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    As this thread is about Khan's level of opposition - next opponent 30 year old Martin Kristjansen.

    Record - Won 19 (5 KO's) Lost 1 Drawn 3 = 23

    Loss came against 41 year old Steffano Zoff a couple of years ago. He then drew against him in a rematch a year later on home soil.

    Vast majority of his fights have been 6 round (or less) bouts - approx 18 out of 23.

    Has only fought once during 2007 - split decision win.