For those saying AA should of been DQ

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  1. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Yes, he looked, then loaded up and swung.

    There's a good chance Arthur was so in the heat that he didn't notice Dirrell was on the ground, but that's his fault because he clearly was. Dirrell is low a lot and slippery and on the floor often and that can be a little frustrating. To me it's a lot more blatant than the Margo vs Cotto fight. One looked to be ending on perhaps a combo. The other is Abraham looking at Andre on down, loading up, and teeing off.

    Clear DQ... and thinking it should be a NC is moronic. Dirrell's career can never been the same. I guess fighters can "unintentionally" just hit them while they have been clearly down and KTFO them out and reserve a NC instead of a loss. Terrible logic. In fact, Dirrell should get 3 points over 2 before a NC. As Tarver said "Those are the type of KO's fighters don't come back from me."
     
  2. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    Read the post you just quoted and try again.

    You're talking out of your ass. No one said Dirrell should be forced to continue and the punch wasnt loaded up.
     
  3. MichiganWarrior

    MichiganWarrior Still Slick! Still Black! Full Member

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    I read it. YOu seem to not know what you are talking about. Abraham clearly loaded up, clearly had time to process Dirrell was down, which is all but irrelevant.

    You dont rule an NC because another fighter lands an illegal blow. Thats the silliest **** I ever heard.

    Hell even the idiots who think Dirrells was faking feel it was an instant DQ.

    You dont rob a fighter of a W because his opponent commits and illegal act. If you cant see the difference in the punches MArgarito landed and Dirrell landed, you have to be insane.
     
  4. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    This what the real debate should be about from last night's fight. Not about if Dirrel is acting or not but if AA threw it intentionally. Those arguing for Dirrell say it was and those for AA say it wasnt. Bowe got away with it against Mathis Jr. and like I said numerous times no one knows for sure if Dirrell was faking it only Dirrel does so its not written in stone.
     
  5. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    If anything should be diffrent Margrito should have been dq'd. That being said There was a much longer delay in Abraham's punch and Margrito's punch.
     
  6. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    no you stil dont understand the post, no one here should instantly declare if hes faking it or not, especially if you dont understand neurology. The only one who knows for sure if it was fake or not is Dirrell.

    and the point of whether AA loaded or not is the whole basis of this argument, Margarito had a second longer(actually pumped back before throwing it) to react to his punch than AA's. You comparing it as more legitimate than AA's is astounding, but whatever you're from Michigan and will blindly support your guy beyond the call of duty.
     
  7. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    :-(
     
  8. CarlesX7

    CarlesX7 Shit got real! Full Member

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    Yes it is a DQ. The thing that would prevent blatant acting would be not being stupid enough to hit someone while he's down. Once a fighter does that, he should be prepared to lose by DQ.
     
  9. ripcity

    ripcity Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Watch the videos.
     
  10. BigReg

    BigReg Broad Street Bully Full Member

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    There is no way you can conclusively say as to wether or not Abraham did it on purpose. What we do know is that Dirrell was clearly down, Abraham hit him flush on the jaw, and Dirrell couldn't continue. How is declaring that fight a NC fair? Dirrell had no control over the situation, Abraham did. You are not allowed to hit a guy when he's down. Abraham broke the rules and Dirrell couldn't continue as a result. A DQ is the only fair action.
     
  11. eze

    eze Everybody Know Me Full Member

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    AA had a bunch of time to pull away from his punch. He clearly hit Dirrell while he was down on his knees. A clear DQ even if Dirrell doesn't go out of it.
     
  12. bernie4366

    bernie4366 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It looked much more like AA did it deliberately. Even more so than when MAB clocked JMM, even though JMM had been down longer, and I really couldn't tell you why. It just does.
     
  13. JMotrain

    JMotrain Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You guys are making excuses for the other fights where a fighter was down and saying that it is much different for Abraham. How is that? It doesn't matter if Abraham is puncher, or how long he delayed.

    A foul is a foul plain and simple. If AA was DQ'd, so should Pac for his punch against Marquez, Marg against Cotto, etc. Who cares if the opponent in the other fights could continue? Assigning degrees of misconduct in the business of cheap shots doesn't really make sense. A foul is a foul.
     
  14. CASH_718

    CASH_718 "You ****ed Healy?" Full Member

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    Aww poor RJJ and AA. All they did was just hit a defencless fighter will they were on the floor...... Roy actually landed 2 shots.

    So whenever a fighter is losing he can just crack a fighter when they slip and they dont lose they get an NC??? Awesome.:patsch
     
  15. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Hitting guys when they're down happens so frequently. Most of the times refs do nothing. Sometimes they take a point away.

    The only times it results in a DQ/No-Contest is when the guy can't or won't continue.