For those that think Mayweather would beat Cotto easily: Slap yourselves.

BITCH ASS · Dec 11, 2007

Scar said:

Truth is, Floyd doesn't give a ****. Cotto's ability to take a punch is enough proof that this won't go the distance either.
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Because Floyd punches harder than Judah or is on entirely different level than Mosley?

Why?

MJRJJ23 · Dec 11, 2007

To whoever said that Cotto handled quick boxers good i have to disagree in a way. SSM was landing rights all night when he threw it and Zab landed his left the 4 times the idiot threw it. Eventhough Zab got beat to death, I think if he had nearly the intelligence Floyd had he could've beat Cotto IMHO. Cotto is very open to lead punches and thats what Floyd is best at. Nevertheless I'm dying to see this fight. I would say floyd 65>35

brooklyn1550 · Dec 11, 2007

eze said:

And Cotto's ability to take a punch is enough proof that their fight if it happened would not go the distance.

Corley has Cotto hurt and Cotto gets a hometown stoppage.
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You fail to analyze the circumstances when Cotto was hurt and fail to factor in other things regarding this issue.

G_RapPBF · Dec 11, 2007

Cotto is slower then Hatton, the only thing he has over hatton is a lil bit of size, a lil bit he started off at 140 too, and boxing ability.

Floyd is faster and a better defender. I dont give Cotto much of a chance. He got beat up by Judah in the first couple rounds then barely beat an old ass Shane. i'd take Floyd by a wide decision or stoppage.

dsholmes1 · Dec 11, 2007

hmm...I have never seen him take a beating when he is healthy. You have a little too much faith in Miguel. Floyd would beat Cotto without taking too much punishment.

trac209 · Dec 11, 2007

good point but pbf doesn't want cotto after the fight hatton gave him. and to those who say it was an easy night for floyd pull your head out your ass. if hatton had got thee last 2 rounds i would have givin him the win.

BITCH ASS · Dec 11, 2007

G_RapPBF said:

Cotto is slower then Hatton, the only thing he has over hatton is a lil bit of size, a lil bit he started off at 140 too, and boxing ability.

Floyd is faster and a better defender. I dont give Cotto much of a chance. He got beat up by Judah in the first couple rounds then barely beat an old ass Shane. i'd take Floyd by a wide decision or stoppage.
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Man, see that's why people don't credit your opinion.

You obviously didn't read my thread or don't understand that there's MUCH MUCH MUCH more to boxing than size and speed.

This is ESPECIALLY true when you're delivering pressure.

BITCH ASS · Dec 11, 2007

dsholmes1 said:

hmm...I have never seen him take a beating when he is healthy. You have a little too much faith in Miguel. Floyd would beat Cotto without taking too much punishment.
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Another guy that doesn't understand boxing.

igotJUIC3 · Dec 11, 2007

the_truth said:

you cant make a fight happend if the other fighter wants to take some time off...atsch cotto has to continue and make a name for himself, and a fight with DLH is the best thing for him... and as for fighting leftovers, i dont believe DLH or judah were leftovers, they both were very competitive against mayweather and were never badly hurt... lets just give you an example of what a leftover is a Fernando Vargas or Ricardo Mayorga when they first fought Trinidad and DLH then fought them after...
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Hatton did...and got the fight....

TIGEREDGE · Dec 11, 2007

capfunds said:

Some of you supposed analysts are going out of your way to say that Floyd would easily beat Cotto, mainly based off what I'm assuming you saw against Hatton, which coincidently wasn't very much if you're coming to this conclusion.

Hatton and Cotto have 2 similiarities, they are both natural pressure fighters, and they both often win fights by breaking their opponent down with a volume of punches, especially to the body.

That's where the comparison stops.

Cotto has something that Hatton doesn't, and its not just size and strength which has been reitirated to no end on this board as the only advantage Cotto has over Hatton.

What is it?

It's the ability to deliver intelligent pressure.

Why wasn't Hatton doing this? Well for one, Floyd's six inch reach advantage and Hatton's lack of explosiveness might have had something to do with this, but this is only a portion of the problem.

Hatton was coming in without throwing the jab, and he was going straight in, almost squared up.

The most important thing you can do against a good boxer, such as Floyd is to come in at an angle while throwing a jab.

If you go straight in, Floyd will t-off on your face with a straight right hand. Hatton was doing this all night.

Do you think the outcome would be any different if than what happened with Floyd if Hatton faced Mosley or even Judah, (substituting a straight left)?

Why do you think it is that Hatton has been avoiding boxers in his division?

At the same time, Cotto has been actively pursuing them. He's fought Malinaggi, (when he doesn't brawl, possibly the closest thing to Floyd above 140), Judah, (arguably one of the most dangerous fighters there is for the first 6 rounds), and Mosley, (a very dangerous, well rounded, boxer with the ability to slug).

That's probably the best possible lineup that you could encouter in preperation for Floyd.

In the meantime, since Kosta, Hatton has been fighting mostly swarmers and sluggers, but no one really threatened to outbox him.

Why is this important? Well, if you gotta ask this question, you should probably just go ahead and slap yourself now. atsch

For those of ya'll with an imprint of your hand on your face, this is important because Cotto has the experience of what to do against slick boxers.

Haven't you noticed the improvement in his jab? How often was Cotto getting tagged with FLUSH straight right hands against Mosley, and straight lefts against Judah?

He wasn't, and why? Because he coming in at angles and using the jab/double jab to keep his opponent on the defensive and off balance.

This is by far the most important aspect of how to approach fighting a skilled boxer, especially one like Floyd. You can't expect to come straight in or he's going to knock your head off and look spectacular in the process.

BUT, since we're on it, Cotto has more than just that.

Cotto doesn't rely on smothering his opponent and throwing a punch and clinching/wrestling like Hatton does, but Cotto gets his distance and throws some fluid combinations.

How many combinations did you see Hatton throw against Floyd? Exactly.

Hatton failed to get the distance that was necessary to deliver these combinations. It's really not his style anyway, as his is punch, grab, keep the distance close.

While Cotto will want to stay on the inside, (and he'll do much better than Hatton because of the above mentioned reasons), he'll do MUCH MUCH better on the outside due to his approach which was adapted from his experience with top boxers.

So who will win this fight?

That's a question you need to ask yourself, but for ya'll that think Floyd will in easily need to slap yourselves, TWICE.

atsch

Floyd is a great boxer, but he wants to retire from the game, not get retired.

And even if he beats Cotto, he WILL take a beating.

Cotto ain't Hatton and Floyd knows it.
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some great points. hatton used to have a lot of variation in his style and was very sharp. I THINK THE EXCESS BOOZING AND JUNK FOOD HAS CAUGHT UP WITH HIM.

igotJUIC3 · Dec 11, 2007

My goodness people underestimating Floyd and boosting the challenger again...:nono

In this fight against Cotto it will be easier for Floyd because Cotto doesn't come forward fast enough and doesnt posess the stamina to endure the punishment and tracking he will have to do with Floyd.

YES...Cotto has skills....but please dont let the little bit of boxing he did against a Mosley who walked in with his head HIGH practicly with a target on his face fool you.

Floyd has everything....but it wont necessarily be his abundance of ability to beat Cotto it will be the MENTAL part...Floyd is just to chameleon like....HE ADAPTS so fast and so well to what fighters do in the ring his preperation is ridiculoous!

My thing is as Smart a grat a BOXEr floyd is....ask yourself whats his weakness?

Now ask yourself whats Cotto's?

BITCH ASS · Dec 11, 2007

igotJUIC3 said:

My goodness people underestimating Floyd and boosting the challenger again...:nono

In this fight against Cotto it will be easier for Floyd because Cotto doesn't come forward fast enough and doesnt posess the stamina to endure the punishment and tracking he will have to do with Floyd.

YES...Cotto has skills....but please dont let the little bit of boxing he did against a Mosley who walked in with his head HIGH practicly with a target on his face fool you.

Floyd has everything....but it wont necessarily be his abundance of ability to beat Cotto it will be the MENTAL part...Floyd is just to chameleon like....HE ADAPTS so fast and so well to what fighters do in the ring his preperation is ridiculoous!

My thing is as Smart a grat a BOXEr floyd is....ask yourself whats his weakness?

Now ask yourself whats Cotto's?
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You can't just talk out of your ass and not really know what the **** you're talking about.

Cotto has a jab and it's explosive.

Cotto takes angles.

If you don't understand this, then you don't understand boxing.

Because when you really break it down, boxing is all about the jab, and angles.

You also don't factor in the KIND of competition.

For you to say that Cotto would be easier is.....I can't even think of a word, but it's stupid.

So please, don't just be like, Floyd can adapt, this and that, when you don't even understand what the **** he's adapting to.

You have to watch both fighters during the fight.

I know you love Floyd, but you have to understand what his opponent is doing and not doing before you can say, "Floyd will adapt.....bla bla bla."

Adapt to what???

igotJUIC3 · Dec 11, 2007

capfunds said:

You can't just talk out of your ass and not really know what the **** you're talking about.

Cotto has a jab and it's explosive.

Cotto takes angles.

If you don't understand this, then you don't understand boxing.

Because when you really break it down, boxing is all about the jab, and angles.

You also don't factor in the KIND of competition.

For you to say that Cotto would be easier is.....I can't even think of a word, but it's stupid.

So please, don't just be like, Floyd can adapt, this and that, when you don't even understand what the **** he's adapting to.

You have to watch both fighters during the fight.

I know you love Floyd, but you have to understand what his opponent is doing and not doing before you can say, "Floyd will adapt.....bla bla bla."

Adapt to what???
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are you serious?

Do you not realize how much this is important to a fighter?

LOL....your funny....his jab is good but Floyd is the best at ADAPTING and taking a fighters strenthgs away.....understand that...or better yet...understand that ADAPTING is very much essential to boxing...i cant believe you said that.

Cotto is SLOW in closing and stands on the outside often.....his defense has more holes then a shredder....Floyd woul be able to dictate this fight very esasily and land precision punches.

What do you mean adapt to what??? Adapt to the FUKKIN FIGHTER and what he does in the ring clown...Floyd knows every fighter will fight different no matter their past so he doesnt gameplan like most do but yet he adapts to what the fighter is doing at the time...he adapts in mid-fight.

You say Cotto cuts off angles...it wont mater in this fight because he closes slow.

BITCH ASS · Dec 11, 2007

igotJUIC3 said:

are you serious?

Do you not realize how much this is important to a fighter?

LOL....your funny....his jab is good but Floyd is the best at ADAPTING and taking a fighters strenthgs away.....understand that...or better yet...understand that ADAPTING is very much essential to boxing...i cant believe you said that.
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No, I want you to tell me what Floyd is adapting to.

You can't just say, adapt.

Tell me what it is EXACTLY that he's adapting to.

I could tell you that the Patriots are gonna win the superbowl, but all you're gonna do is ask why?

psychopath · Dec 11, 2007

For those that think Mayweather would beat Cotto easily
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Let me be clear about this . . . there's no easy fight and no easy win on this level of competition. This is the kind of fight that one mistake by either fighter can change the results.

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