For Those Who Love Alexis Arguello

Good comparison, however Tszyu was very unorthadox in his angles, and his defence. He was an expert at luring people into his power. He did little things that i didn't see when watching Arguello once again, which IMO puts him a level above interms of ability. His exceptional power does also.

 

I just told you guys Floyd and Pea has far better technique than JMM and Lopez since defense requires technique as well..and they were superior by miles.

last time I checked a Check Hook is a technique

 

I see what your saying, but I think Arguello gets his respect with his accurate and powerful right. It would only take one to "possibly" make Diaz hesitant to rush in there like he normally does. This has never been seen on Diaz yet, so I could be wrong, but this is a "fantasy fight" after all

 

Arguello had exceptional power. You see the little things Tszyu does, but not Arguello? I think it's a case of not watching enough footage, or perhaps just not analyzing it. I get into that mode every time I watch an old school fighter or anyone less than exciting(though I personally like watching Arguello), where I try to watch and look for the subtle things, rather than be impressed. I try to see exactly what makes them effective. With Monzon it took a few views, with Arguello, not so much.

 

Not really textbook though. Things like lead right hands, lead hooks, check hooks, stance switching between combinations, squaring up on the inside and usuing lateral movement whilst punching ect are not considered textbook. IMO thats what differentiates the good from the great.

 

Their defense was not textbook though, that is my point. They don;t go by the book. I was saying it depends on what you're talking about, textbook technique or overall strategy. Based on textbook technique, Pernell was pretty unorthodox, as is Floyd, though both are technical boxers. JMM and Lopez(particularly Lopez) are damn near perfect textbook-wise.

And what are you talking about? When the hell did I mention a checkhook? Have you been drinking?:think

 

Arguello didn't have the one punch power KT had, nor did he have the pressure or tenacity IMO. Still like i said, I would be more then happy to go back and re watch as it has been some time.

 

Arguello didn't have the one punch power KT had, nor did he have the pressure or tenacity IMO. Still like i said, I would be more then happy to go back and re watch as it has been some time.

 

Not at 140 he didn't, but at 130 I'd take his over Tszyu's in fact, P4P. Tszyu relied a lot on hurting an opponent on accumulation as well, not always a one punch KO artist. Anyway, here's a bit of Arguello at 140, his worst weight.

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I was trying to be funny obviously you have no sense of humor.. Textbook has nothing to do with Technique in general unless you put the two words together like "textbook technique"

technique is technique..whether rolling with the punches, dodging, dipping ala Pernell..its all technique..Marlon starlings peek a boo style is technique, PACs straight left is technique..whether its in a book or not it doesnt matter..

All Im saying is that when people mentions technical..its mostly associated with people throwing textbook combos ala JMM..which is why I tend to disagree with MTSR in his Arguello assessment..I find Alexis just as technical as JMM

 

I can't view any video footage from work unfortunately.

 

without that "mixture" pryor couldn't have survived. i watched the legendary nights series and the actual fight itself and i am pretty convinced that pryor's corner really cheated.

 

Alexis is one of my all time favorites and he's an alltime great. Watch his fights up to and including Pryor #1. He was a bit past his peak and was beyond his prime weight vs. Pryor, but he still made a good showing, and dropped some right hands on him that would have put just about anyone else down, but Pryor was a posessed demon that night.

What I respect as much about Alexis ability and efforts in the ring, was that he always spoke highly of his opponents, before and after the fight. He's one of my 5 favorites.

 

Which is why Aaron gave him a rematch and then he stopped him in 10...