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**** that, i will always give RJJ a shot at beating anyone even now cause of how good he was...but my money would be on Joe the senior citizen basher

 

Yeah but im positive we would see a glimpse of the Old Roy that would have spanked Joe in his prime.

 

****off you Joe nuthugger

 

moseley/DLH 2.shane was roided up too wasnt he? you dont care how the black man wins do you:-(

 

Joe just isn't that good though, not compared to Roy anyway. He struggled with a 43 year old Hopkins. Prime Roy would have absolutely whupped him. I don't think it goes past 8 rounds. Total dominance. You keep saying Hopkins was the recognized undisputed champion... By who... Ring Magazine? He had lost twice to Taylor, and looked pretty awful in just beating a very blown up jr middleweight. Joe dominated Lacy, who has gone on to do nothing. Which has really taken away from the win. Lacy really doesn't have any significant wins, to make him a great scalp. Kessler hasn't done anything of note either. Dawson will SCHOOL the crap out of Kessler, and then Joe's resume is in tatters. All he has is an old Eubank, and old hopkins, and a couple decent title holders. Nothing special. Roy Jones Jr in comparison, is the first guy to win titels from middle to heavy, dominated the sport as the number 1 p4p guy for over a decade. Beat multiple HOF, and possibly 2 ATG's (his victory of Hop easily more significant). Dominanted all his opposition in brutal fashion, compared to Calzaghe who struggled with Reid, and has looked poor at times against limited opponents. They are not even comparable.

 

If taking steroids can turn you into the greatest boxer to ever live, then get me some ****ing juice dammit.... Someone obviously forgot to tell Mosley how it works agianst Oscar the 2nd time, or for Toney in his recent abismal outings. If you think steriods made Roy the fighter his is, and gained him his legacy, you should go down to the local gym, and find the next ATG. I won't hold my breathe.

 

I used to not like Joe, simply because of his poor opposition, but he has stepped it up no doubt.

In saying that, Bika proved a tough fight for him, but at the time, Joe was slandered for choosing someone like Bika as an opponent. Even Beyer was slandered for fighting Bika just one fight before.

Bika's stocks are now higher than they were when he fought Joe, but at the time he was considered a garbage opponent, and not world class.

 

I don't understand how he suddenly became world class?? Was it by losing to Soliman, Bute, Calzaghe or winning the Contender? I can't work out which is worse.

 

Well, I don't really consider him world class even now. More a decent contender.

I was just saying that his stocks were a lot lower when Calzaghe fought him than they are now.