For those who think they know their boxing history............

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  1. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    I was under the impression that Villa had better comp against bigger guys, but again, maybe that's because there are quite a few of Wilde's opponents I know little about.
     
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  2. mckay_89

    mckay_89 Haw you! Full Member

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    No Harada?
     
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  3. littlefloyd

    littlefloyd Pure boxer Full Member

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    I don't post here but curious to see a top 10 flyweight list, i don't know **** bout these guys but i look them up records. Can i ask what basis your list is? Why do you rate someone so high as 4rth when he only fought for 4 years?(villa)
     
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  4. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    An old time Mexican legend unknown to many here beat 2 of the guys on your list Newsboy Brown,Midget Wolgast alsobeat former fw champ Freddie Miller,KId Azteca,Baby Arizmendi,Juan Zurita,Speedy Dado.amd HENRY ARMSTRONG

    DO any of you know his name?

















































    Rodolfo Cassanova also known as Chango Cassanova.
     
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  5. lora

    lora Fighting Zapata Full Member

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    I like McGrain's list as well.Other than Villa.

    I'd have Harada in there somewhere though.Despite the very short stay, this was arguably his natural weightclass(115 i reckon would have been ideal had that existed then) and he's a monster head to head here.The Jones jr at 160 debate could apply to him, though i think Kingpetch was a more experienced, superior opponent than the pre-prime Hops.


    Ebihara comes close, especially if you think he beat Accavallo.Very underrated record despite no real title run.


    Chang and Lopez could stake claims for a place as well, probably the only two from the modern sub-flyweight divisions that did enough to warrant inclusion.
     
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    No.

    I actually moved him down a slot, but check out the world champion at higher weights he beat up whilst weighing in at the fly limit. He also stopped a faded Wilde and in those 4 short years won more fights than many fighters who are active twice as long.
     
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  7. McGrain

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    I had him in originally at 10 until I realised I had forgotten Genaro. Given that I would have Kane at 9 now, that would make him #12.
     
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  8. anarci

    anarci Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Do any of you guys rate chionoi,laciar or oguma?
     
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  9. teeto

    teeto Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    Haha you're hallucinating.
     
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  10. turpinr

    turpinr Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    lynch would top my list.kane would make the top ten too
     
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  11. Hookie

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    How about 112Lbs. and under? Sounds good to me.
     
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  12. reznick

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  13. Hookie

    Hookie Affeldt... Referee, Judge, and Timekeeper Full Member

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    I hate making list but here goes... I just combined 105,108, and 112-

    Wilde 138-5-2 (100) stopped x3
    Johnson 44-5 (28 ) stopped x3
    Lopez 51-0-1 (38 ) undefeated!
    Carbajal 49-4-1 (33) stopped x1
    Gonzalez 43-3 (30) stopped x3
    Pancho Villa 92-9-4 (23) never stopped!
    Peter Kane 89-8-2 (54) stopped x4
    Benny Lynch 81-12-15 (34) stopped x1
    Midget Wolgast 161-37-16 (17) stopped x5
    Yuh 38-1 (14) never stopped!
     
    Hookie, Apr 1, 2010
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  14. mcvey

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    Wilde
    Lynch
    Perez
    Canto
    Labarba
    Genaro
    Villa
    Kane
    Wolgast
    Harada

    Happy with my first four ,the next two could swop, after that its pretty much guess work ,to be honest.
     
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  15. djanders

    djanders Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hmmm. That's some challenge there, Janitor! I'm sure no expert of the Flyweights, but that's never stopped me from having an opinion before, so Ill take a stab anyway. I won't be surprised if more knowledgeable Flyweight fans disagree with some of the names and much of the order of this, which I'm not too sure of anyway.

    01- Jimmy Wilde
    02- Pascual Perez
    03- Peter Kane
    04- Benny Lynch
    05- Fidel LaBarba
    06- Santos Laciar
    07- Frankie Genero
    08- Miguel Canto
    09- Jackie Brown
    10- Pancho Villa
     
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