For your money who was the pfp strongest boxer ever?

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  1. rhin0z>

    rhin0z> Boxing Addict Full Member

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    This is strong. by will, by mentality, by phisicality, by heart of champion...... and he was old man damn!

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  2. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Trained in Jiu-jitsu before I started striking. I'm not particularly strong, never lifted weights, never had a problem in in the clinch either. So much of it is knowing how to use leverage, timing and controlling an opponents balance. Most boxers I've sparred with have told me how strong I am in the clinch. I'm not, I just pay attention to what I am feeling in the clinch more than most boxers. Grappling was the best thing I ever did for my striking game.
     
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  3. escudo

    escudo Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Check out Minotauro Nogiera vs Bob Sapp. http://i.imgur.com/DqUrUVw.gif This happened but Nogiera still won the fight.
     
  4. Reason123

    Reason123 Not here for the science fiction. Full Member

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    Most of the top guys in their weight classes are all probably a lot closer in strength than many realize. All the guys who make it to the top are strong as heck.
     
  5. choklab

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    But unless they know what they are doing they would get destroyed in a boxing match by a real boxer.

    Are you actually saying some big Lug who never had a fight in his life is going to beat a real boxer in the ring?

    That is ludicrous.
     
  6. Combatesdeboxeo_

    Combatesdeboxeo_ Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Bob sapp? Bob ****ing sapp? Hahah again you guys have no clue about what a strongman is
    mariuz pudizianowski was a strongman look at what did to sapp with rules

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    Look at 1:37 he moved sapp like a rag doll and did put him down easy
    You think that a big guy from gym is a strongman.
    And mariuz weighed "only" 115 or 120 kg or so for his fights he weighed 135kg as strongman and eddie hall weighs 180kg. Imagine these animals fighting without rules
     
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  7. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Now you are changing the topic. What i said is that under rules like boxing obviously a strongman would lose because he is limited . in a street fight a strongman of the elite can destroy a boxer . the difference of functional size, power, weight , mass etc is huge. You can hit him in the face but with this giant neck and strong bones trying to knock him out is very very hard
     
  8. choklab

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    Hitting somebody who isn’t a fighter is like taking a free shot.

    Won’t make a difference. Big muscles in a neck won’t help if the guy gets hit with a punch he dosnt see coming. His brain is still going to rattle lose. If the guy gets hit right it’s over. Any guy.

    And the guy who isn’t used to avoiding punches or sensing the sequence of them will take a punch blind A whole lot more often than a guy who grew up with swapping punches with trained fighters. And that’s what takes people out. The not being able to brace themselves at the moment of impact. Brain rattle.
     
  9. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    Franco columbu at boxer.was a lw and he weighed 188 pounds as bodybuilder and strongman, you can't judge his strength as a trained elite strongman and saying that he was that strong as a boxer in the lw division.. Not even close

    Franco as boxer
    https://goo.gl/images/XTGdfv


    Franco as strongman and bodybuilder

    https://goo.gl/images/V8S6CQ
     
  10. escudo

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    Yeah there are two distinct Bob Sapp's in MMA. Pre- Crocop Sapp was scary as hell, rag dolling every one and a very serious fighter. Even stopped K-1 legend Ernesto Hoost twice in kickboxing. Fishy stoppages aside, he did that. Then when Cro-cop shattered his orbital with a left straight he was never the same guy again. Started looking for the fastest way out of a fight. Win or lose.

    All due respect to Pudz, he gave MMA the old collage try, but he went 12-6 overall. Managed a 30 second KO of a Gracie though. Pudz lost weight because MMA is way more cardio intensive than strongman competitions. Anybody that bulky is going to lose weight if the grapple regularly. I know my first day at the gym I weighted about 230lbs. Lost about 60lbs in a year or 2.
     
  11. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    I agree that a trained fighter always will be better fighter than a normal guy... But a strongman got huge physical advantages and you forget that in every combat sports you got weight classes for evident motives. Added to this fact, a strongman is not a bodybuilder a poser.. Is a guy who could bench more than 300kg ... And they got cardio proofs running with huge weight... A bodybuilder is a poser a total joke but a strongman is a serious rival
     
  12. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    In my first day in a boxing gym i was 216 pounds and i never fought before in a gym, i have no problem with good amateur guys that weighed under 160 .
     
  13. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    my point is that imagine a guy like mariuz in a street fight without any rule, if he did it with a 170kg guy trained imagine that he could do in a free fight
     
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  14. escudo

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    He'd still gas out. Too much muscle is not conducive to great cardio. Lateral movement, maintaining the distance, leg kicks. If it happens in any kind of open space a good fighter could and would take him out. A narrow alley would be a great environment for his build. A parking lot, not so much.

    It would take some time, but if you can survive the first 2 minutes it becomes a winnable fight for a trained 200lber with decent cardio.
     
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  15. Combatesdeboxeo_

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    It is more probable that he catches you and you can't move of the floor. This version of mariuz weighed only 115kg to compete under rules but a big strongman in his peak as strongman weighs over 135kg.( today over 160kg) and the difference of size and power is huge, remember that here we are not talking about an inflated bodybuilder a poser, these guys are functional and explosive , really strong not big musculature to show in the beach, when you work with real heavy weights your bones get thicker and tougher, sure some great fighter could beat a great strongman but it would be pretty hard for him and a huge risk and the reverse could happen also easily
     
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