Foreman ('91) vs. Valuev ('06)

Valuev would be a punching bag for Foreman. The jab would connect all night and Foreman might do some body work too, given the height.
I think he lasts 6 rounds. Valuev does have a pretty good chin, but I think he just gets punched too much.

 

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I just reviewd my "Holy-Foreman" tape from '91. Foreman was strong and powerful as an Ox against the 28 year old Holy in Atlantic City. Granted that Foreman was ponderous and slowed at age 42 and 257 pounds of muscular bulk, mixed in with some pudge in his girth, but he still was in awesome physical shape....

Nick "The Dick" Valuev is no fleet-footed boxer of Holy's peak capabilities. Not even close..

I see Valuev getting off early for a few rds, but then Foreman closes the gap and unloads some power shots to shake, rattle and roll Valuev...

Foreman gets the TKO win somewhere around the 10th round.....

MR.BILL

 

I think it would go the distance honestly.

A "prime" Valuev certainly had very respectable stamina, and a nice jab... Seemingly something Foreman always struggled with. Foreman is of course favored 9/10 regardless.

 

1990's foreman is one the most overrated fighters of all time. His knockout percentage dropped so dramatically when he went up in class in the 1990s. Alex Stewart, Tommy Morrison. Axel Shulz, Crawford Grimsley, Shannon Briggs, Lou Saverese all went the distance with foreman, and some of these men beat the **** out of foreman too. None of these men outside of Morrison were top 10 rated by Ring Magazine. These men that took foreman the distance were not hard to stop either. Some of them were even glass jawed gooftroopers. If Foreman can't knock these men, I highly doubt he will be able to stop a very durable fighter like Nikolay Valuev.

People make it out like a 1990s Foreman was some kind of tyson esq puncher, when fact is tyson was knocking out these same men foreman struggled tremendously with, in one round. Foreman didn't have a prayers chance in hell vs any of the big four in the early 90s (tyson lewis bowe holyfield)...Holmes would have easily outpointed Foreman in the 1990s too.



I think this fight is a toss up. Valuev can jab with foreman(maybe even better, checkout his performance vs Liak), and he can take some of foremans slow telographed wallops. Valuev with his straight punches and long arms can get in quite a few licks on Foreman. Foreman wasn't exactly hard to outbox, or hard to hit.

I will go with Valuev by close decision.

 

Valuev is like eight inches taller and 80-100 pounds heavier. Massive fail. Valuev is basically like Foreman only with far more skill, taller, bigger, faster and better in every way. Foreman got blitzed by feather-fisted speedy Muhammad Ali! Valuev has never been down. Valuev not only has power in both hands but he can punch with both hands at the same time. Hence, the SNV double punch. This would hardly be a contest if it were young Foreman VS old Valuev!

 

Briggs had to be in the top 10 he was fighting for the elimination bout to fight Lewis after that.

 

Not according to the Boxing Register 4th edition. The only top 10 Ring Magazine fighters Foreman fought in his comeback were Holyfield(Champion), Morrison, and Moorer(top 10). I don't know how accurate of a source the boxing registry is, but that's my source.

 

Qawi was Obese, and Washed up.

Cooper was a lifelong Journeyman, who lost to everybody.

Cooney was coming off a 3 year layoff, and himself was washed up.

Rodrigues was rated 6th by one of the boxing sanctions, but not by Ring Magazine. Rodrgiuez was a decent win, as foreman knocked him out early. but Rodriguez was not a world class fighter. Nowhere near it.

 

Very good post, I concur with your opinion.

 

I will add....1970s Foreman knocks out Valuev in 3 easy rounds. I can't believe there are actually people out there who think the 1990s foreman would beat the 1970s. It's such an outrageous opinion, I don't even know how to respond to it, other than to laugh.