Foreman--Briggs, the robbery that wasn't

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  1. THE BLADE 2

    THE BLADE 2 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The 1th and 12th were closer rounds IMO. I reckon you could reasonably score the 12th to Briggs because he landed some bombs that shook Goerge. The 1st round could have reasonably been scored a draw, but I would rather give it to George because he was the aggressor.
     
  2. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    WOW.
     
  3. zulander

    zulander Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I watched it a long time ago.
    Always felt George won it - it wasn't a robbery there were a couple of close rounds both had their moments and there were a couple of rounds you could pick what you liked. I had it by 2 to George.

    The disrespect shown to Briggs on the HBO comms was unreal. You wouldn't have thought he was in the fight at times. That being said the Claxton card of Briggs by 8 rounds was also a joke.
    Foreman - Briggs
    r1.9 10 Battle of the jabs, Briggs edged it
    r2.10 9 Foreman edging closer, landing more
    r3.10 9 Foreman with big punches in the first half of the round.
    r4.10 9 Foreman with big punches in the first half of the round.
    r5.9 10 A close round where Briggs landed some good single shots late in the round
    r6.9 10 Briggs best round so far, landed so decent left hooks and Foreman's jab went missing
    r7.9 10 Briggs edging it with decent work rate and some work inside
    r8.10 9 Foremans jab and power shots land throughout
    r9.10 9 Some attritiononal inside fighting, Foreman probably landing the better punches
    r10.10.9 Briggs started well, Foreman's jab reeled him in, Briggs finished strong.
    r11.9 Foreman mauling in and taking the fight to close quarters both have moments but its Foreman who wants it at this distance
    r12. 9 Briggs moving away early, Foreman still having success with the jab and the right and hooks in close, with a minute left Shannon lands some good shots but Foreman is always able to answer with something.
    115 113 big George
     
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  4. RulesMakeItInteresting

    RulesMakeItInteresting Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I watched this fight with the sound off this time. I've watched it at least a half dozen times total.

    Round 1:
    Briggs due to being busier. Foreman looks like he just woke up.
    Round 2, 3, and 4 for George
    Round 5 Draw. Foreman was very much the aggressor, Briggs did too much backing up and it affected the potency of his punches. Foreman's forward motion really helped his jab and even though I thought George had overall the more effective punches I'll give Shannon the benefit of a doubt, as he threw plenty of punches (again, none really seeming to move George much).
    Round 6 for Foreman. I can't keep giving the nod to Briggs when he spent the majority of the time being backed up and generally outmaneuvered by Foreman. Whenever the latter landed the jab it made an obvious impression on Briggs and kept him moving away. I admit, to me the challenger almost always needs to take the title from the champion, but this kind of backing up doesn't exactly make Briggs look like he's winning. Just getting away from that ponderous yet evilly accurate jab again and again.
    Round 7 for Foreman, who turned it on hard at the end and landed some great jabs. Briggs is simply not landing anywhere near as effectively, always getting moved back.
    Round 8 for George all the way. Briggs looks really bad here, taking a couple of very ugly rights.
    Round 9 Briggs actually lands some effective punches. I thought this was the round Foreman took a rest.
    Round 10 Briggs landed real wekk toward the end, though George got in some heavy shots as well. I'll edge it for Briggs.
    Round 11 to George closely.
    Round 12 George. Briggs did get a bit of a late rally, but at times Foreman was punching him across the ring.
    8-3-1

    Foreman took the fight to Briggs throughout, broke his nose, jabbed the living bejesus out of him, landed flush with many heavy, heavy blows.

    I remember when this fight happened, I was thinking George might lose because of his poor showings against Schulz and Savarese (couldn't knock Lou out? really?). I was astonished he could be so effective against a "live" opponent who had good power and a decent jab (when he deigned to use it).

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  5. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    The WBC arranged it as a final eliminator for Lewis's title.
     
  6. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I think it's a closer fight than people make out but i don't see an argument for Briggs getting the W maybe a draw though. But as i've previously said before Foreman got the benefit of the doubt in 3 other decisions in the 90s the Schulz fight especially was a far worse decision than the Briggs one so it evens itself out.

    Here's how i had all of Foreman's decisions in the 90s BTW.


    George Foreman vs Shannon Briggs

    1 Briggs
    2 Foreman
    3 Foreman
    4 Foreman
    5 Foreman
    6 Briggs
    7 Briggs
    8 Foreman
    9 Foreman
    10 Briggs
    11 Briggs
    12 Foreman

    115-113 Foreman


    George Foreman vs Lou Savarese

    1 Savarese
    2 Foreman
    3 Savarese
    4 Foreman
    5 Savarese
    6 Savarese
    7 Savarese
    8 Savarese
    9 Foreman
    10 Foreman
    11 Foreman 10-8 point deduction
    12 Foreman

    114-113 Foreman



    George Foreman vs Axel Schulz

    1 Schulz
    2 Foreman
    3 Schulz
    4 Schulz
    5 Schulz
    6 Foreman
    7 Foreman
    8 Schulz
    9 Schulz
    10 Schulz
    11 Foreman
    12 Schulz

    116-112 Schulz


    George Foreman vs Alex Stewart

    1 Foreman
    2 Foreman 10-7 2 knockdowns
    3 Foreman
    4 Stewart
    5 Foreman
    6 Stewart
    7 Stewart
    8 Foreman
    9 Stewart
    10 Stewart 10-8 point deduction

    94-93 Foreman
     
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  7. fourskin

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    Foreman won that fight robbery !!!! And I was rooting for Briggs at the time !!!
    But foreman lost to Shultz another robbery
     
  8. drenlou

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    I'm going to re-watch this one tonite and post my scorecard here.
     
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  9. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had Foreman winning wide to be honest. I am admittedly pretty bad at scoring fights but I struggled to see Foreman not winning this.
     
  10. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I had it 8-4 Foreman so more or less the same. I thought Foreman looked sharp especially for his age.