Foreman explains how he built up his endurance in his comeback

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  1. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    'In my first boxing career, I never ran more than three miles at a time during training. I didn't need much stamina - I always knocked opponents out in the early rounds. But I knew it would be a different story the second time around. My wife would drive me eight or ten miles, then drop me off so I could run home. I found out what athletes meant when they described getting their 'second wind.' I realized I had more willpower than I thought. Once I got past the initial pain, I felt I could run forever. That's how a lot of things are in life. You might be in a situation that's uncomfortable or even painful at first, but once you push past the pain, you find your second wind - and then nothing can stop you!'

    - George Foreman
     
  2. USFBulls727

    USFBulls727 Active Member Full Member

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    I was expecting to read something about hydration, being that one of his former trainers supposedly tried to dry him out to get him to a lower weight before fights, or something like that.

    George's stamina certainly seemed better in his comeback, but it's hard to imagine that version of him running 8-10 miles.

    Whatever he did differently to improve his stamina though, it's too bad that didn't get corrected in his first career. Imagine that version of George with better stamina.

    Nice message otherwise, and hands-down the best comeback in boxing history. Better getting it figured out late than never.
     
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  3. Romero

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    George Foreman in his comeback relaxed which is much more valuable then any amount of long distance road work if you’re a ball of anxiety. Great quote.
     
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  4. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Not only did he only run 2-3 miles in the 70's, he did dehydrate himself. I actually asked him this on Twitter and he confirmed Dick Saddler had him losing weight to stay in the 224-226 range for whatever reason. I guess the idea was to be faster, but I can't figure out how they thought losing moisture was supposed to be good for a sport that's so big on cardio and explosive movement. Saddler was in love with Foreman's punching power and focused on that the most in training.

    On top of that, he had hypertension which just made his endurance even worse. In the 90's learned to relax and took his cardio a lot more seriously. It paid off.
     
  5. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    I am guessing there was some walking involved in those 8-10 miles runs. George Foreman was a big man in his second career! Never-the-less his stamina was obviously improved so, whatever he did, it sure helped him.
     
  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    The schools of thought on what yields best results in strength and conditioning/endurance/diet/etc changes constantly. I would say evolves but I don’t think every new idea that comes along and becomes THE thing is necessarily better than what came before.

    At certain points weightlifting was taboo in boxing. Then people figured out ways to do it that would enhance the mechanics used in boxing and it became OK.

    Below heavyweight today, just about every world-class boxer cuts weight and does so largely through dehydration (really since day-before weigh-ins became a thing it’s been a contest to see who could cut the most weight and then get as much of it back through rehydration before fight time) … so they must figure being ‘bigger’ and losing that water weight is better than being fully hydrated all along and fighting closer to what they weighed in at.

    A lot of it is fads. I guarantee if we live long enough you wait 20-30 years and there will be some ‘workout scientists’ who will absolutely ‘prove’ that a bunch of what people do today is terrible for them and the ‘new’ way is how to do it — until something else comes along.

    I believe Ray Robinson did roadwork in clunky/heavy Army boots. Ate steak as his day-before meal and was known to have the cook drain the blood out of beef and drink it with his meal. I’m sure the very top kinesiologists/conditioning coaches of today will tell you Ray was doing it all wrong. But darned if they’ve found a way to create a better Ray Robinson yet … so who is to say Ray’s way wasn’t better?
     
  7. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Archie Moore, I believe.
     
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  8. Ney

    Ney Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    No way, no how was Foreman running that far in his comeback years. Nothing short of video evidence would convince me!
     
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  9. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    This a crock of shite I think ... When he lost to Ali he went into depression. And he went back to eating cheeseburgers to pull him out of it. He got ready for fights by eating cheeseburgers. " When I eat cheeseburgers I feel good , and I fight good when I feel good "
    He orders 5 cheeseburgers during lunch interviews .. lol

    Big George was a story teller . running 8 to 10 miles training for fights ? LOL
    Hell he couldn't even sit down between rounds. He had one foot up on the stool
     
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  10. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    The fact he stood between rounds and still had good stamina is proof he was obviously doing lots of running.
     
  11. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think both are true. Lots of cheeseburgers and lots of miles in the legs. He never really gassed in his second career. This would be an impossibility without doing the cardio work.

    But yeah, lots of cheeseburgers.
     
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  12. surfinghb

    surfinghb Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think you are missing the reason Big George stood in between rounds ? If he sat , he was afraid he wouldn't be able to get back up
     
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  13. Glass City Cobra

    Glass City Cobra H2H Burger King

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    Have you ever stood between rounds during a fight or spar? That takes lots of endurance. My coach made us do that as part of our regular training. We ended up having legs as sturdy as an oak tree and great anaerobic endurance.

    If you doubt Foreman ran 8 miles, how do you explain his vastly improved stamina? He was a chunky, rusty, 40 year old man who had been inactive for over a decade. Logically, his stamina should've been even worse.
     
  14. Reinhardt

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    Agree 100% ,, Gil Clancy once commented on how Roberto Duran was able to fight so long at an advanced age and against bigger opponents he said,,"Roberto is so relaxed in the ring so comfortable in there" , George found that out too... great observation!
     
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  15. ikrasevic

    ikrasevic Our pope is the Holy Spirit Full Member

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    If he ran at this speed (or even slower when he gets tired) IMHO he could run 8-10 miles.
    Nevertheless, Foreman was a professional athlete with several records that are still valid today (one of the records is a career break of 10 years, which no one would have managed).
    Of course I have no proof that Foreman is telling the truth or lying. But I trust him :)
     
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