Foreman pissed off with Lampley

Unforgiven · Apr 17, 2014

shadow111 said: ↑

This is something I noticed when I re-watched this fight a few weeks ago. Lampley said if Naz loses, then it was written so by Allah. This is because before the fight started Naz chanted and praised Allah and Islam. Naz made the fight about his religion, and it was a shock to most people. By his pre-fight chanting of Allah, a lot of people saw that as the fight being about Allah and Islam. Then when Naz lost, it carried a lot of significance to many people. This was also before 9/11, I doubt Lampley would say what he said after 9/11. But before 9/11 with that statement he was basically holding Naz accountable for what he said before the fight. If you're going to chant and praise your religion and your lord before a fight, and then you lose the fight, well then did his lord not answer his prayers?

Naz was undefeated in all his other fights, and in none of them did he chant about Allah and Islam before the fight. But the one fight he chanted praising Allah, he lost. If you believe in divine intervention, then that is very telling and is something that I thought about. I didn't mention it at first, but now that you highlight this statement by Lampley and the response by Foreman, I think it is worth talking about.

It would be interesting if someone would ask Naz about this in an interview, if he regretted chanting for Allah before the Barrera fight. You can look at it in a lot of ways, and it doesn't have to turn into a religious war. Maybe Allah was humbling Naz by making him suffer defeat. Maybe Allah didn't like how Naz made the fight about him. Because then when he lost, it made Allah look bad. That was a fascinating fight for many reasons.
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Barrera was just a better fighter.

Thread Stealer · Apr 17, 2014

shadow111 said: ↑

This is something I noticed when I re-watched this fight a few weeks ago. Lampley said if Naz loses, then it was written so by Allah. This is because before the fight started Naz chanted and praised Allah and Islam. Naz made the fight about his religion, and it was a shock to most people. By his pre-fight chanting of Allah, a lot of people saw that as the fight being about Allah and Islam. Then when Naz lost, it carried a lot of significance to many people. This was also before 9/11, I doubt Lampley would say what he said after 9/11. But before 9/11 with that statement he was basically holding Naz accountable for what he said before the fight. If you're going to chant and praise your religion and your lord before a fight, and then you lose the fight, well then did his lord not answer his prayers?

Naz was undefeated in all his other fights, and in none of them did he chant about Allah and Islam before the fight. But the one fight he chanted praising Allah, he lost. If you believe in divine intervention, then that is very telling and is something that I thought about. I didn't mention it at first, but now that you highlight this statement by Lampley and the response by Foreman, I think it is worth talking about.

It would be interesting if someone would ask Naz about this in an interview, if he regretted chanting for Allah before the Barrera fight. You can look at it in a lot of ways, and it doesn't have to turn into a religious war. Maybe Allah was humbling Naz by making him suffer defeat. Maybe Allah didn't like how Naz made the fight about him. Because then when he lost, it made Allah look bad. That was a fascinating fight for many reasons.
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Barrera was a better fighter than Hamed and took advantage of Hamed's technical flaws.

Naz was also not known as the most dedicated gym worker either.

A great fighter beat a very good one. Simple as that.

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