Foreman replaces Douglas against Tyson

Tyson would take Foreman much more seriously. MUCH MORE than Douglas

Foremans too slow for Tyson, in his comeback anyway.

Remember the unanswered punches Holyfield landed on Foreman? Now imagine if that was Tyson.

Foreman RIP.

 

Douglas would have pasted old Foreman worse than Stewart did.

 

This is a ridiculous statement, that Douglas is 1 of the better looking HWs on film in history. Top 15 of the biggest in history, Top 15 of the fastest in history and Top15 of the most skilled in history.

Tokyo Douglas may well beat any version of Foreman, remember Young beat a Prime Foreman

People talk about Tyson losing to Douglas but old Foreman lost to Tommy Morrison

 

"Prime" is still code for "nearly dead from dehydration", right? I'm just checking.

 

Let me clarify: Prime = excuse making 1 dimensional puncher who was at his very best and got taken to school, not pre-school, not primary school, not secondary school but Young School!!!!!!!!

 

You sound like a biased tyson fan here.

 

Whether you wanna look at common opponents, styles, skill level or any other spin - the end result is the same: old foreman is a few levels above douglas, as are most great heavyweights.

 

Damn. I done messed with the best in the west. The greatest poet of all time. Not this time, that time, the other time but of ALL time...I am humbled. :sad2

 

one thing old George had over Douglas was consistent mental strength- an ATG's mental strength, that always goes a long way I admit but that is it. what goes further is form over top competition. Tokyo Douglas had balls enough to live with foreman and punish him bad. Tokyo Douglas, if you check his recent form was the only contender beating other “live” rated contenders at that time. He was a much better fighter than thomas, Tubbs, spinks and bruno were at the time he met Tyson.

Old foreman was not even Frank Bruno level. people confuse him with what he was for a short time in the 1970's. Old man Foreman landed big fights only because he was a ticket seller and was seen as a low risk gimmick -big old guy from way back. You give Bruno the fights foreman could land and he wins those fights better than foreman. Stewart? cooper? Morrison? moorer? Bruno did beat coetzer better and around the same time.

Old george was lucky he did not have to fight lennox lewis, he would have fared much worse than frank.:deal

 

NO, a biased Tyson fan would say 'Tyson didn't train and wasn't at the races', which they all say. I appreciate what Douglas good in dethroning Tyson

 

You got's Young Schooled

 

I believes Foremans mental strength is very exaggerated and very overated.

I put his mental strength in the same category as Tysons.
Foreman was never the same after the ALi loss. He did did face dangerous puncher Ron Lyle and beat him in a tough brawl
Tyson was never the same after the Douglas loss. He did did face dangerous puncher Razor Ruddock and beat him.

Foremans second loss to Young freaked him out so much he retired for 20 odd years.
Tysons second loss, to Holyfield freaked him out, he didnt fight anyone decent for the rest of his career except Golota and Lewis.

Foreman came back, only because he was broke. Tyson cant do a comeback, because unlike Foreman, he will always be disadvantaged due to his size. Foreman wanted one thing and one thing only and that was $$$$. Why didnt Foreman fight Lewis, Holmes or Bowe?

And why would Tyson duck Foreman, when he fought Spinks, Holmes, Holyfield and Lewis?

Once again, i belive Foremans so called mental strength is a load of crap. Great chin and durability, but mental strength? no i dont think so.

 

Douglas had a lot of talent, much more than Foreman. Foreman had freakish power. Take that away and all youve got is a heavyweight Margarito (minus the stamina)

In 1990, Douglas, used lateral movement, a strong jab+multiple combinations, very good footwork. He did not just stand in front of Tyson. The one second he did, he was on his a$$.

When did Foreman (in his comeback) ever use lateral movement or angles or even mutiple combinations?

He would stand in front of Tyson, Tyson would just tee off on him. Foreman would not hear the final bell against Tyson.

Moorer and Morrison ran because they knew they had no chins. Tyson had the chin and unlike Holyfield, Tyson had the firepower to put Foreman to sleep. (As he did to anyone who stood in front of him)

 

I think of georges mental strength as being the glue that held him together as an old slower man taking on another generation of fighters. I dont rate that version as a great fighter but I feel he had that at the very least. Think of all those 80s dudes who had talent but flopped as young men? Yes he had a chin, size and power but he could not match anyone for speed and timing- his mental strength nuetralised the speed because he had to have the balls to talk himself into knowing he was big enough, strong enough and experienced enough to have an edge. In the holyfeild, moorer, stewart and shultz fights he had to suck it up and keep going against the odds. It paid off with schultz and stewart because he was the house fighter but even so...If he didnt have that mental strength he would just be an old timer chancing his arm -and getting found out like the rest of them.

 

Thats the thing was getting found out most of the time, only against Moorer he landed a lucky punch. Tyson would have been the most dangerous guy Foreman would have ever faced.

Foremand would need all the mental strength he could muster because he would need it against Tyson. Tyson would be bringing the heat.