Foreman said this about Frazier

I partially agree with Foreman's statement, as I believe the fight would have been slightly more competitive and not so disastrous a loss for Frazier.

I still think Foreman would have destroyed Frazier in the end, especially given the long amount of time Joe often needed to get going.

 

Frazier was sharper before and up to Ali 1, I remember Stander was a club fighter, tough kid but not even top 25 and Daniels was less than that. I remember watching Joe after March 8 and saying he is not the same

 

have to agree. styles make fights and frazier thrived on guys he could back up. that's why he had so much trouble with bonavena: couldn't back him up as easily as normal. foreman he would NEVER be able to back up and he'd always be a nightmare

 

I don't know why boxer's bother being gentlemen, it just gives the arselickers more ammuntion. Foreman-Frazier was an embarrassment of a match-up. For younger posters, here it is again...


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The thing is, people just desperately want to believe it would be different because they see Frazier as more of a 'model' fighter (perpetual motion unlike many big men, small in comparison with others, lived and breathed boxing), whereas they see Foreman as a clumsy strong man, with an unattractive style who got by mostly on raw power and size.

 

Agree with this 100%

However, I feel George gets a rough deal nowadays. Some people say he wasn't even that powerful and that he just threw arm punches. Foreman was a beast:deal

 

bang on.

 

This footage is clearly John L Sullivans 39 round draw with Charlie Mitchell because both the guys are white.

Never knew it was filmed though.

 

Yes I agree, it's somewhat transparent as to the deference that Foreman gives his peers. I don't think he was scared in the least either against Frazier, Norton or Ali, for that matter. Especially vs Norton..the before the bell staredown was evident of that..and Richard Pryor, on the Johnny Carson show one night had a funny routine about that staredown..he imitated both Foreman's and Norton's demeanors in the ring prior to the bell. The young Foreman was a monster on wheels vs all his opponents, even after Zaire...against Lyle, and even with Young he just brimmed with confidence and menace. His presence was somewhat subdued in his latter day fights as the bald, fat, fuzzball he later became. Yes Teeto, I agree, he was just being nice to fit his new, grill selling image.

 

Why would the fight be different? Frazier did not take a top level punch, and his moving forward swarming style against a thunderous puncher is going to cost him every time.

Just like Liston is going to crush Patterson evertime, Foreman would do the same for Frazier.

 

im a fan of both fighters, probabley more so frazier, but no matter what way you cut it, some guys are made for other guys. if joe and george fought when they were in their primes, out of their primes, whatever permutation you want with all things equal then george wins

 

George just had Frazier's number. As the saying goes, if it ain't broke don't fix it. Frazier's devastating boxing style worked on every one else, so he would naturally think it would work on Foreman.

Come inside, duck your opponents shots, pressure your opponent, and cut off the ring. That style worked for Frazier on every fighter except George. George hits too hard for Frazier to take on the inside. Maybe if he could of made George tired it would of been different.

 

I agree with George. Frazier was a beast in FOTC and he never reached that level again. He still was brave and strong but not so dynamic, aggressive and quick. Not saying that he would beat Foreman for sure, but it would be closer and very explosive fight.