Foreman vs 5 guys

Probably the main thing would be Rocky's chin. It was next to granite against the fighters he faced. Could any of those fighters hit as hard as Foreman, early rounds or not? I think Louis, Walcott and Moore all could at times. I do, however, feel Foreman would be able to deliver the hard blows more often in the early rounds. Maybe Rocky could take it, but I wonder.

I guess the one thing we can rally conclude is Marciano never faced a Foremen... and in the same ilk, Foreman never faced a Marciano - and that includes Joe Frazier. Joe and Rocky had boxing styles that weren't really that similar. Outside of both being agressive, in your face fighters.. Frazier and Marciano are quite different.

 

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While you are entitled to your own opinion, I really do feel all three could.. at times

 

How would Demp do VS Foreman?

 

Foreman looked pathetic taking on those 5 guys. He's even trying to clown, dance and throw windmill bolos, silly showboating in a silly gimmick exhibition.

The 1970s is held up by many as the greatest heavyweight era, but when I watch **** like this - and numerous other embarrassing crap from "the greatest of all times" Muhammad Ali - I have my doubts.

 

That was one the most surreal thing I've seen. With Ali right below Foremans corner screaming ans shouting at Foreman and Cossell trying to calm him down.

It was like something out of pro-wrestling.
It was really dumb.

I still feel that the 90's were the greatest era for HW's, there was so much depth from the A level guys down to the C level guys, so many characters and variety in styles that made great match ups.
Perhaps they don't have someone as great as an Ali but H2H they smoke the 'greats' from the 70's.

 

Nah, the 90s were even worse. That's why guys like Holmes and Foreman were still competitive as out-of-shape men in their 40s.

I cant remember much depth in the 1990s.
Yeah, I'm sure we can dig out some classic fights but the quality of most of the contenders and the alphabet "champions" is downright embarrassing.

 

Well, he had bigger biceps you know! And Dempsey looks tougher!

 

Mike Tyson
Lennox Lewis
Evander Holyfield
Riddick Bowe
Ray Mercer
Tommy Morrison
Razor Ruddock
Michael Moorer
David Tua
Oliver Maccall
Ike Ibeabuchi
Andrew Golota (when he was good)

vs

Muhammad Ali
Joe Frazier
George Foreman
Ken Norton
Jerry Quarry
Earnie Shavers
Ron Lyle
Chuck Wepner
Jimmy Young
Larry Holmes
Joe Bugner


H2H, I take the 90's. Easily.

 

Your one mistake was forgetting to factor in peak Neon
Leon!!!!!!!!!!!

 

As bad has the 70s might have been (compared to the common perception) I think you're stretching it a bit by implying Chuck Wepner was among the elite contenders.

Wepner but no Bonavena ?

Anyway, I'm no big fan of the "70s heavyweight golden era thing" but cant see how the 90s names are any better.

Larry Holmes beat Ray Mercer easily, and he fought a close one with Oliver McCall. He was old and flabby.
Foreman was old and flabby too, he knocked out Moorer.

Mercer, Morrison, McCall, Golota were all mostly mediocre. I'm really not impressed at all.

 

Well the last guy wasnt taking the beatings that the first couple of guys were. And in a mythical matchup Marciano coming on strong late is contingent on what he's able to accomplish early.

 

Yeah, wins over Lennox Lewis, Akiwande, Holmes, Maskaev (Who wasn't nearly as unexperienced as his record indicates)

Came within an inch of beating Bruno, and would of if he hadn't went into a shell.

Never off his feet, and still an extremely good and dangerous fighter at 42 years old.


Medicore all right.

 

He would've beat Bruno if he hadn't "went in to a shell" !?!
Yeah, and Bruno would've beat Tyson "if ...."
Michael Spinks might have beaten Tyson "if" (.... If he hadn't had been KTFO !)

McCall got THOROUGHLY outboxed by Frank Bruno.

Yes, he beat a 45 year old fat Larry Holmes, and didn't look good doing so.

McCall lost decisions to Orlin Norris, Tony Tucker, Buster Douglas. Those guys were usually mediocre too.

The other wins you mention dont impress me either.
Except the KO of Lewis, that's good.
McCall was a tough guy with a good hard punch. I dont take that aware from him. He was dangerous.
But McCall was a very limited fighter, for someone who they called a "world champion".