Foreman vs Frazier 2, if Frazier had won?

Frazier would be regarded MUCH higher today both ATG and H2H, as he would've defeated every man who faced. I don't see Ali accepting a rematch with Frazier so I see Frazier retiring. I don't see him returning to face Cummings.

 

Ali-Frazier IV would have been a dead cert. The money and ego involved for both men would guarantee it.

 

Ali imo was to worn out. Hence why he didn't want to fight Norton a 4th time. He knew the time when he could easily beat Norton, let alone Frazier, was long gone.

 

There never was a time when Ali could easily beat Frazier or Norton. In fact, many people believe that Frazier won two out of the three and that Norton won all three or perhaps, two out of the three.

 

That is probably a bit like asking:

What if Cobb had outpointed Holmes?

Where does the division go from there?

 

He may've always had hell with Frazier, but I see him stopping Norton in round 6 in the 60s.

 

I'm not convinced about that. The 60s Ali had considerable advantages against smaller (except Terrell), older fighters. The Ali that followed was tougher, but now had to usually fight heavyweights like Norton instead of small, older cruiserweights. I'm not a big fan of Norton, but he may have been able to beat Ali on Ali's best day.

 

On Norton's best day, he coudn't even beat an Ali ten years past his prime!

 

Oh, you mean the guy who broke Ali's jaw en route to pummeling him to a decision win and definitely getting robbed in the third fight and possibly the second? Hmm....
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Honestly you could argue Ali won all 3 fights.

 

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Only the second fight is debatable.

 

TBH, I thought Ali won all 3 fights comfortably.

 

Ok, it's silly to argue about such things. We all see things differently. Maybe you're right. Peace and all the best to you.

 

You to my friend.