foreman vs holyfield ??

Foreman has much much faster footspeed and ability to cut of the ring in 73 versus 91. This must be factored. Out-boxing Foreman would be much harder within the first few rounds. And if we aren't in Puerto Rico heat or if Foreman is bombarding shots to him on the ropes he won't tire out in a Ali-Foreman Zaire type fashion. And I think a 73 Foreman might be better and more prepared.

 

There is not a fighter...

Who has stepped in the ring with Evander Holyfield, who has not been hurt.

Evander Holyfield hit hard enough...

Faster hands than Forman, better movement, and could fight at a higher intensity.

People don't understand how fast Evander Holyfield was...!

It took Foreman until the ege of 40, to learn how to throw a straight punch..

 

I have to go with Foreman. He was a beast. I also agree that had he come in lighter when he did face Holyfield he might have beaten him. Of course, Foreman at any weight or any age, if he caught Holyfield the right way, could end it. I kept waiting in their match for that perfect right hand. Foreman could really hit.

 

Holyfield is no puncher at heavyweight. He gets by with different skills. He certainly isn't a finisher. He just gets guys attention with his shots and it's almost always the left hook. Just where are all the ko's? I saw lots of decisions. And even decisions against guys in their 40's. What other in their prime heavy goes the distance against 2 challengers in their 40's? How many punches did he land on Foreman the end of what, the 8th round and he could not get a tired old guy off his feet? You know, it wasn't as if we ever had a 74 Foreman going the distance against a Johanseen.

Vaughn Bean. Alex Stewart. 3x with no defense Bowe. Ruiz 3x and zero ko's. Lewis 2x. As a matter of fact, he didn't get all that many guys off their feet when you look closely at how many rounds he fought. The solid defensive guys like Toney/Byrd/Donald---did they even get hit by the guy?
Evander's punching prowess at heavyweight is a much different ballgame than it was at cruiser.

 

With the exception of Michael Moorer and Tyson I cant think of any half way decent guys Holyfield knocked out.

It took Foreman till the age of 40 to throw a straight punch? Apparently the only fight you seen Foreman fight in his prime was against Ali then. Watch old Foreman vs Holyfield on youtube or something and watch how looping his punches were most of the time. When he threw his punches straight they hurt Holyfield.

Old Foreman also had worse balance than young Foreman and that equates to lost of punching power. Young Foreman's balance was better which mean he hit harder. Holyfield is no Ali, Holyfield can't make a man miss the way Ali could. Holyfield couldnt or wouldnt get in Foremans head and make him fight stupid.

Holyfield has alot of heart, but so did basiacally every fighter in the 70s and they lost to Foreman and so would Holyfield

 

Dokes? Qawi (Admittedly at Cruiser)? Warren you are a spaz.

 

Not really proving anything with that though mate

 

Holy's been hit by Tyson, Lewis, Foreman, and Bowe. To think Foreman would stop him because Bert Cooper had him badly hurt is ridiculous. Holyfield would never show the lack of respect against a young Foreman like he did against Cooper or even an older Foreman. Holyfield boxes smarter, exchanges often, but comes out with a competitive victory.

 

Dokes was a legitimate heavy.

 

Had you seen his form going into that Holyfield bout? There's a reason the guy was a 10-1 underdog.

 

he didn't ko ali in 5 rounds so why should he ko evander in 5 ?
young outpointed him , so why evander couldn't ?