Foreman vs Valuev in Zaire

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Who wins in Zaire?

  1. Valuev

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    4.0%

  2. Foreman

    24 vote(s)
    96.0%
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  1. cross_trainer

    cross_trainer Liston was good, but no "Tire Iron" Jones Full Member

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    Does Foreman manage to hurt the giant enough to stop him before his own stamina gives out? Can Valuev weather the storm and outbox Foreman? Heck, does an exhausted Foreman win on points?

    You decide.
     
    cross_trainer, Oct 10, 2021
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  2. Scott Cork

    Scott Cork Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I see Foreman collapsing late. Not from a punch though. If there was anything good about Valuev it was his durability. Foreman would punch himself out.
     
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  3. BitPlayerVesti

    BitPlayerVesti Boxing Drunkie Full Member

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    I think either Foreman eventually gets the stoppage (possibly Valuev's corner pulls him out), or Foreman gasses but still wins a decision.
     
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  4. Bah Lance

    Bah Lance Active Member banned Full Member

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    Is Valuev truly even durable?

    His level of opposition was very poor and King successfully kept him away from anyone that could punch. Outlasting Monte Barrett is hardly a claim to a granite chin.

    The one big hitter he faced, Haye, largely boxed a conservative fight and did successfully rock the big man with one of his few bad intentioned counters. And not the first time Valuev was staggered...

    Foreman TKO 4. He can hammer Chuvalo to a stoppage, he can hammer a barely mobile Valuev into one.
     
    Bah Lance, Oct 10, 2021
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  5. robert ungurean

    robert ungurean Богдан Philadelphia Full Member

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    Foreman by brutal KO
     
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  6. 70sFan865

    70sFan865 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't see peak Foreman losing to Valuev. You need far more than a strong chin to beat him.
     
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  7. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Foreman was better in everyway, as was Ali, no way could Valuev do the rope a dope and counter like Ali, his hand speed was slower than Foreman`s.
     
    mark ant, Oct 10, 2021
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  8. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    Honestly If Valuev had a game plan for Foreman he could possibly win but it would not be a characteristic style for Nikolia. If he just clinched, pecked and mauled (Wlad/Ruiz style) Foreman he could really wear out George quickly and he would be bossing George around the ring he if he tried this he is arguably the strongest guy to ever to hold a strap. If we take Nikolia as he is Foreman just about might punch himself out... though I would not bet on it.
     
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  9. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Mauling Mormon’s Full Member

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    What If he pulled a Ruiz and mauled every round jumping on his back like Wlad?

    Do you think he has a chance?
     
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  10. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Foreman hit with far more power and worked Ali`s body well, he would have destroyed Valuev`s body and no way could Valuev take Foreman`s power he was hurt by Haye.
     
    mark ant, Oct 10, 2021
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  11. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Valuev was rocked by lessder punchers and was too easy to hit.
     
    mark ant, Oct 10, 2021
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  12. OP_TheJawBreaker

    OP_TheJawBreaker NOBODY hit like that guy! Full Member

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    Valuev claimed that 46 year old Evander Holyfield hit him the hardest, so anyone who thinks that Valuev has chance....



    think twice
     
    OP_TheJawBreaker, Oct 10, 2021
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  13. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    My answer: valuev by stoppage late

    The popular answer: Foreman Ko 1
     
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  14. mark ant

    mark ant Canelo was never athletic Full Member

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    Valuev didn`t punch as hard as Lyle.
     
    mark ant, Oct 11, 2021
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  15. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    No I agree he didn’t. But I can see foreman wearing himself out
     
    mr. magoo, Oct 11, 2021
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