Foreman vs Walcott, who wins?

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  1. TheGreatA

    TheGreatA Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not necessarily gone, but surely less potent than Louis. Still, Walcott gave Louis less respect in their rematch than in the first fight. He had felt Louis out, thought he had him all figured out until suddenly getting knocked out.
     
  2. McGrain

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    I don't disagree with you.

    I just mean that there's a world of difference between what Louis was bringing and what Foreman would be capable of bringing that late in the fight. It's a good analogy because both these guys are punchers who need to trap maybe the trickiest HW quarry - but Foreman is so different in terms of economics. I side with Janitor in that I believe you're talking random massive bomb if Foreman wins this in the 11th.

    Having said that, Foreman is likely more technically concise in cutting off the ring itself in 1-6, shall we say, for the sake of argument, so nothing is a given. But I tend to make Foreman the live dog here.
     
  3. TheGreatA

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    I certainly don't see a repeat of the Louis rematch in a Foreman-Walcott fight although in fairness to Foreman he did stop Peralta in the late rounds but that was a different task to taking on Walcott.

    I imagine Foreman would have to use his great strength and make it a rough fight, putting Walcott on the ropes as Layne and Marciano were able to although that was an older Walcott looking to pace himself. Ali was like a brick wall but most other men wouldn't have been able to take Foreman's pressure against the ropes.
     
  4. McGrain

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    Walcott also doesn't appear to have anything like Ali's great physical strength.
     
  5. TheGreatA

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    Well, he was very strong for a 195 pound man. But Ali was strong for a 215 pound man. Foreman would also have the height and reach advantages over Walcott, not that it would make much of a difference anywhere other than the clinches.
     
  6. janitor

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    Debatable.

    Willie Redish said that Walcott was the strongest man he ever shared a ring with apart from Sonny Loston.

    Redish fought or sparred with just about everybody in the business.
     
  7. McGrain

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    Ali doesn't look short of strength when he and Sonny get tied.

    Sonny and Liston name eachother the strongest guy they ever shared a ring with. I say Ali has better functional strength than Foreman, or appears to when they share a ring.

    Ali is grossly underated for brute strength. Phenomenally strong heavyweight.
     
  8. TheGreatA

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    Jimmy Young despite his unimpressive build next to the likes of Foreman and Lyle was also about the best I've seen in using the clinch to his advantage.
     
  9. Twelve

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    Inconsistent. He took some nasty shots from Marciano, got hammered with Louis's blows, and took the best from Charles over 4 fights without wincing. He was put down by some lesser guys though like Abe Simon.

    No easy night for Walcott, but he takes it 6 times out of 10 in my eyes....and I'm digging that avatar of yours :hey
     
  10. McGrain

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    Lots of cool Jack Johnson avatars on lots of noobs these days.

    Prepare to have that fandom assaulted :lol:
     
  11. tommygun711

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    Foreman by TKO. I don't think Walcott can box the entire fight without getting stopped.
     
  12. PetethePrince

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  13. PetethePrince

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    Ali uses his strength better in the clinches. In a sense he's more functional in using his strength, but Foreman's definitely stronger. Ali couldn't shove Frazier around the way Foreman did.
     
  14. FastHands(beeb)

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    I like JJW over both versions. If Tommy Morrison can outbox old Foreman...you know the rest.

    Young George, well, Walcott didn't have a habit of getting blown away early (Marciano 2 aside, and that's because The Rock ruined him in the first bout). JJW is clever enough to stay away from young George early on, JJW's footwork being the key here. JJW can punch too.

    Walcott is a seriously underrated boxer imo (though not so much on classic). I say he survives early & picks George off...he could even knock George out in the mid-late rounds...stamina was not a strength with young George.
     
  15. Bummy Davis

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    I like Walcott in this one...I think Jersey Joe uses his footwork early and picks his shots and pop-shot Foreman...Remember Walcott would know what Ali knew...Foreman gets tired after 7 rds and the older Foreman liked to dictate the pace...Walcott handles Big George and could land one of his heavy pin-point punches...