Foreman vs Wladimir Klitschko

I think you are underestimating Wlad's mobility. He was able to outmanoeuvre David Haye in most of their fight and Haye is very fast and agile for a heavyweight.

 

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If I follow the logic around here, it goes like this.

A 6ft3 boxer from the past is much taller than a 6ft3 modern heavyweight.
A 220lbs boxer from the past is heavier and stronger than a 220 modern heavyweight.
The boxer from the past is also faster, has better footwork and will also be much tougher.
Even the little guys like Marciano and Dempsey are stronger, harder hitters even when being massively outweighed.

Boxing seems to be the only sport where athletes have regressed over the last decades.

 

Seems like picking Foreman by an early KO is the easier pick ... Probably the right one to.
I don't see Wlad's size being an issue, just a bigger target for Foreman to tee off on. It would be a messy affair for a few rounds, but I think once Wlad is hurt, he's going to have an almost impossible task of surviving.

Foreman should be able to blitz Wlad, make him scramble, corner him and do some damage inside in the early stanzas. I do like Wlad, but only way I see him winning is if the referee lets him get away with excessive holding throughout the contest, but even then Foreman may well have the strength to overpower him in the clinches. Wlad did folded against the most formidable puncher he faced in just 2 rounds. I'm aware this was before we saw the best of him, but his chin will remain to be questioned and I'm not comfortable picking a boxer with a questionable chin against one of the hardest hitters of all time

Foreman by KO in 4

 

I think the footwork and mobility of Wlad will play a bigger role defensively than clinching would in this matchup. Foreman would have to cut the ring off effectively and not follow in straight lines because Wlad wouldn't make himself available by being stationary or coming to George.

 

If Wlad wants to fight he gets a concussion by round 9, he was KOD BY A LOT LESSER GUYS THAN FOREMAN:deal, let's be real his chin isn't exactly made of stone, watch the first Peter fight, he was hanging on for dear life..

There isnt much difference in size either Waldo is 6-6, Foreman 6-4- 2 inch whoop de doo, and Wlad may be. a little heavier, but Georg is the physically stronger tougher man...

The other scenario is Foreman winning by DQ, they don't play all of that grabbing, holding, hugging here in the states, you fight or get your ass outta the ring, we ain't Germany..

 

Wlad would have to be precise and in perfect form to defeat Foreman. Foreman, with a much sturdier chin and zest for combat, has a larger margin of error. He could get dropped and still come back to kayo Wlad. Yes, Wlad did get up three times in the Samuel Peter fight in 2005, but they were not flush shots. More rabbit punches and pushes.


Also, it depends on which stage of their respective careers each man was at. The Foreman who struggled and got his face messed up by Alex Stewart against say the Wlad of the last several years would have gotten picked apart. On the other hand, the Wlad who was lucky to get a technical draw against Touch of Sleep Williamson in 2004 would have been eaten alive by Foreman.

Prime vs Prime it is very tough to pick. Klitschko has become a superior conditioned and confident ring general who has dominated his opposition. Yes, the Povetkin fiasco was a fight that Wlad should have ended and ended early left more rancor from the purist fans. But the man continues to win and win handily. I think the Klitschko of today has the weapons to have beaten any version of Foreman. Klitschko matches Foreman in strength and punching power but is taller and a better boxer. He just better avoid getting clipped too often. He also of course has the power to knock anyone out including Foreman.

Klitschko is not the same fighter today as the one who lost to Purrity, Sanders, Brewster. The Wlad of today beats all three of those guys easily the way he is today.

 

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Boxing is a skill & will sport first and foremost. Boxing has evolved (improved) in certain ways sure, but I don't think it's improved that much over the last 30-40 years.

 

The Wlad that fought Haye and others was not an easy guy to hit hard early and he moved in and out.

Foreman could land a power jab followed up by a right hand and start Wlad on the way out but lets not forget Vlad has defensive skill good legs as well as a great jab and right hand and hook.

I see Wlad being careful and cautious using the jab movement and going in with the right and hook conservatively but more as the fight goes on, the younger version of Foreman would start to wind and get hit more and if Vlad is still around after the 5-6th rd Wlad starts landing some bombs and keeps the jab moving, once George start showing fatigue Wlad shoots the right hand and hook

We can say Wlad fought punchers not sure if they were in Foreman's league but they were punchers but can we say the young Foreman ever fought anything close to Wlad, the answer is no....Wlad has the tools I will pick him with caution

 

I say Foreman, here,s why... First, Vlad would be VERY intimidated by Foreman, who would do a cool pysche job on Vlad. The menacing stare, scary presence. While Vlad has been winning for many years now,look into his past. His chin IS suspect,and since getting stopped by less than stellar fighters. he has totally adopted a safety first/clinch style of fighting. Foreman, would come out hard and strong looking to do damage to Vlad,s shaky chin and send him a message as well. Vlad has been dropped and stopped on more than a few occasions. Foreman would have a significant mental edge over Vlad, who would be keenly aware that Foreman has the stuff to hurt him. If Vlad could get Foreman into the later rds, he could maybe kill the clock jab,hold and hold some more... And maybe squeak a boring decision. But, the guess is here that Foreman rocks him hard and early and finishes what Brewtser and Sanders did with a KO before the 6th rd... I also feel in a battle of jabs that Foreman,s would do serious damage and is better than Vlad,s...

 

Yes he does. He has frightening punching power in both hands, enough to knock george foreman out. Wlad is one of the hardest hitters of all time. Foreman think Lyles straight right was hard? Wait until he gets hit with 20 of Wlads straight rights.

 

If Foreman can turn this into a brawl he's KOing Wlad within 6 rounds. If Wlad can take him into deep waters Foreman is in trouble here.

 

Foreman got knocked out by Ali, he also almost got KO'd by Lyle, and dropped by Young. Coming from a Foreman fan to pretend like Foreman would be this monolithic unstoppable behemoth against Wlad is just laughable. Wlad tends to not put all of his power in one shot and pace himself, but don't be fooled if Wlad catches Foreman flush with too many jabs and straight rights, he will go down.

Wlad has the superior mobility, style,ring iq, size, conditioning and power to really give Foreman a beating. Bad match up for Foreman. Wlad KO 7

 

Wlad has never fought a beast like Foreman, and it would take an extraordinary performance from Wlad to keep Foreman off him long enough to wear Foreman down.

Wlad 'aint no Ali. So it's Foreman KO6.

 

The battle of footwork would be interesting here. Wlad has great footwork, the best of any of the super heavies. George could be very plodding and almost clumsy but could certainly pressure guys with his movement.

The race is to see if Wlad's hammer jab and crisp rights can defuse George's pressure before George puts Wlad in his wobbly boots… I don't think Wlad is going to evade George for 12 but he may evade him for 7 or 8 and leave him too exhausted and battered to produce in the final 4 or so. Then again, George's pressure may be too much for Wlad or Wlad tries to rely on clinching a guy who is at least as strong as he is…


I think a pick is somewhat senseless… it would be a series of momentum shifts… whoever can ride out their troughs better will have the last peak.