Foreman without the comeback??

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  1. daredevil1989

    daredevil1989 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Where does he stand amongst the ATG heavyweights?
     
  2. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I've heard it said that he would of just been seen as an anomaly, nothing THAT special.
     
  3. Sizzle

    Sizzle Active Member Full Member

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    Interesting.

    Possibly just outside of the top ten for me, or scraping in.

    I rate him 6-7 at the moment.
     
  4. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    For me, Foreman would always be an all time great, but of course, I mainly became a huge fan of his when I was growing up watching his comeback, so it does have a great deal of value to me. I think his wins over Frazier, Norton, and Lyle, along with his all time win/ko ratio would make him among the best. He also won the gold medal and lost only two times in his first 47 pro fights. Foreman is probably my favorite heavyweight of all time, or at least one of them to be sure.
     
  5. Ezzard

    Ezzard Well-Known Member Full Member

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    In the 1980s The Ring rated all the HW champions and Foreman did not make the top 10.
     
  6. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    As it is I'm not sure Foreman should be top10, he had too much missing from his game, same with Frazier, both fighters showed very apparent weaknesses
     
  7. Bokaj

    Bokaj Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I probably wouldn't have him in my top ten if not for the comeback. A true ATG shouldn't fizzle out while still in his prime like he did after Zaire. By that time he had only met six good fighters and lost against two of them.

    But by coming back in such fashion he showed true heart and amazing strength of character. What complicate matters is that even though he had some amazing physical assets and some amazing mental assets, he never had them at the same time. It's only by combining young Foreman's physical gifts with old Foreman's character and heart that you get a truly great fighter.
     
  8. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Why wouldn't you have Frazier in your top 10?
     
  9. janitor

    janitor VIP Member Full Member

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    He would be a bit of an enigma.

    Some people would have ranked him in the top 10 based on what he did to Frazier while others would see just too many unanswered questions to rank him in their top 20.
     
  10. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Do you think he would have been viewed sort of on the same level as say Riddick Bowe?
     
  11. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    What your top ten list? Which ten would you place over Foreman and Frazier?
     
  12. Marciano Frazier

    Marciano Frazier Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I presently have Foreman in my top five at heavyweight, but the comeback is a big part of that. It's what separates him from other "intimidating destroyer" champs with devastating-but-brief title runs. With no comeback, Foreman would probably rank near the tail end of my top 10.